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This is new news as well. "On Friday, Secretary of the Navy Richard Spencer announced the formation of an independent team to conduct a Strategic Readiness Review in response to the recent series of surface vessel accidents."
1 posted on 09/02/2017 6:21:23 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Check the comments. Here is one:

“”If the USN would publish the relevant track charts, suitably annotated with times, names, speeds, headings, etc - then the wider maritime community could make a more substantive contribution to resolving these tragic incidents.

The USN has nothing to lose from greater transparency - - unless, unless those track charts show errors of shiphandling and seamanship that are SO egregious that it (USN) dare not publish ... ... then we are in a totally different ball game.””

http://maritime-executive.com/article/navy-finds-no-evidence-of-cyberattacks-in-collisions


2 posted on 09/02/2017 6:25:35 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Ping


3 posted on 09/02/2017 6:26:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Theyre training as much as ever it’s just that half of the things turned training involve social experiments:

understanding homosexuals or minorities, putting on pregnancy simulators, walking around in high-heeled shoes...all manner of things totally unrelated to making America safe.

as has been noted 100 times, the liberal tendency is to turn the military into a laboratory for sociology ideas and we just got out of doing that to the US military for 8 years.

actually more than that.

The only blessing is that we’re finding this out while we do not yet have a full-scale Navy battle on our hands.


4 posted on 09/02/2017 6:28:47 AM PDT by gaijin
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BULL DUNG!


5 posted on 09/02/2017 6:30:05 AM PDT by Bob Celeste
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The complaint about readiness appears to be saying the Navy is undermanned. That class of destroyer has a manning roster and it takes X number if people to man it when it goes to sea.

They either had the proper number of people on that ship or they didn’t. If they did, then the overall navy is not the issue when that vessel was at sea.


7 posted on 09/02/2017 6:31:26 AM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is important.)
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Arleigh Burke would have been distraught.
11 posted on 09/02/2017 6:37:30 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The families of the dead sailors and the taxpayers deserved competent officer’s of the deck.


17 posted on 09/02/2017 6:44:56 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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the pictures I saw the ships looked like they were rammed . like some group checking out out vulnerability....


19 posted on 09/02/2017 6:47:49 AM PDT by jrd
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Any trannies on the bridge helping out the captain when the crashes happened? Hmm? Just asking...we won’t be told such things. The code of silence is deafening.


20 posted on 09/02/2017 6:49:31 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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hacking?
I think people under a general impression that the cause is navy wasting resources and failing due to social engineering efforts


21 posted on 09/02/2017 6:54:35 AM PDT by stanne
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I’m still waiting for my $2,500 health care reduction. Oh, I’m also trying to get my old doctor back.

Fool me once...


24 posted on 09/02/2017 6:57:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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I’m SHOCKED!, SHOCKED I say. I was certain that the Navy would admit that because of hacking, our Trillion dollar navy is WORTHLESS!!! /s

No COVER UP going on here /s

What’s next? Sparks in the center fuel tank distracted us from seeing those GIGANTIC ships coming right at us?

“Sir, is starboard left or right?”

“Sir, which lever makes the ship go Zoom Zoom?”

“General Quarters!” “Sir, aren’t generals in the navy called admirals?” “And where would their quarters on this ship be?”

*****************CRASH***************


26 posted on 09/02/2017 7:06:37 AM PDT by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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“”The deputy head of Naval Personnel has been quietly tapped to lead an investigation into the collision between guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain (DDG-56) and a chemical tanker near Singapore, Navy officials told USNI News on Thursday.

Rear Adm. Richard Brown, commander of Naval Personnel Command and Deputy Chief of Naval Personnel,””

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/01/personnel-chief-tapped-to-lead-uss-john-s-mccain-investigation-navy-leaders-to-testify-on-collisions-before-congress


31 posted on 09/02/2017 7:19:47 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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Look, all this social engineering and sensitivity training is not good for our military BUT, it wasn’t responsible for these deadly collisions.

If that were (it ISN’T!) the cause, it would be worse than a cyber attack.

It would mean that our $ BILLION (+) warships can be taken out by THOUSANDS of container ships at will, no special hacking equipment needed.


36 posted on 09/02/2017 7:32:59 AM PDT by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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On Wednesday, Adm. Richardson said that to prevent future accidents, the Navy has to fight back against a "do more with less" mentality and must maintain its high standards. "We have to make sure that we're properly resourced, whether that be fuel, whether that be parts, whether that be people," he said. Otherwise, he warned, a decline in readiness "sneaks up on you.”

Unfortunately, the services have been downsized during the Obama reign of terror. When there simply are not enough people to do the job, things get omitted. If 500 personnel are needed for a ship, training can be skimped even though this means that sailors do not have a good grasp of their duties when they arrive on the ship.

The Admiral is correct. The "Do more with less" mentality can only be pushed so far.

38 posted on 09/02/2017 7:35:38 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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would the Navy admit it if there was hacking? I don’t think so.


41 posted on 09/02/2017 7:46:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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At times, it is painful to find you are correct:

"In an initial investigative report on the Fitzgerald casualty, the Navy's Seventh Fleet suggested that the incident was due in large part to human factors. "The collision was avoidable and [the mariners involved] demonstrated poor seamanship. Within Fitzgerald, flawed watch stander teamwork and inadequate leadership contributed to the collision," Seventh Fleet said."

46 posted on 09/02/2017 7:56:32 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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No explanation of the 8 ships showing up at an airbase simultaneously while using common navigation system.


49 posted on 09/02/2017 8:07:44 AM PDT by RideForever
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It could be a clear cut case of Occam's Razor - taking out a US Navy Destroyer with a missile, torpedo, etc. is an act of war and brings retaliation. Ramming it with a merchant ship in an "accident" is just "unfortunate".

Kim and the NORKs have already benefitted from some key vessels from our already depleted fleet (thanks 0bama!) being put out of action.

53 posted on 09/02/2017 8:31:35 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Texas should thank "The Clinton Foundation" for their aid during Harvey. Wait, er, nevermind!)
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Of course not.


58 posted on 09/02/2017 9:04:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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