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California doesn’t need antifa, but the rest of the country sure does
Sacramento Bee ^ | August 29, 2017 | Erika D. Smith

Posted on 09/02/2017 5:55:39 AM PDT by artichokegrower

Apparently this is the part when I’m supposed to jump on the anti-antifa bandwagon. The anti-fascists, after all, were the ones who rolled into Berkeley last weekend looking like fancy ninjas, and they were the ones who beat up the white nationalists – not the other way around.

So the anti-fascists are bad, right? They’re all thugs and idiots who wear masks and carry shields, and deserve to be denounced and locked up?

Not so fast.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antifa; berkley; condescendingliberal; domesticterrorism; electionviolence; erikadsmith; militantleft; neocommies; racketeering; tds
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To: artichokegrower

Interesting, it appears that I’ve been banned from yet another leftist news site from commenting.


21 posted on 09/02/2017 6:25:13 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: artichokegrower

These commies, antifa, are delusional. They think showing up at rallies with sticks and wooden shields while being protected by police and wanting to over throw the US is going to work?

If, and it will not happen, if they get close and topple the government or start a real civil war when it is clear the rule of law is over, then law-biding citizens like me and 10s of millions of others, will take deadly action - not prisoners.

Yamamoto’s words about a gun behind every blade of grass will be proven and antifa and the race warriors will fall like a hay from a scythe.


22 posted on 09/02/2017 6:26:40 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: artichokegrower

They try that and end up being unmasked at the very least.

No hoodies, no masks, no problems.


23 posted on 09/02/2017 6:27:07 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: deepestsouth1
It is almost hunting season, after all.
24 posted on 09/02/2017 6:27:56 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Jim Noble

Their self made “armor” will become a liability at that point.


25 posted on 09/02/2017 6:30:12 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: artichokegrower
They aren't anti-fascists. They are anti-first amendment thugs who act in the same manner as fascists.

If they are so proud of their cause, why do they cover their faces?

26 posted on 09/02/2017 6:31:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: artichokegrower

“...and they were the ones who beat up the white nationalists – not the other way around.”

Never accept the left’s premise. The people antifa assaulted in Berkeley were not white nationalists, they were the Patriot Prayer group who specifically stated in their announcement that racists and extremists were not welcome at their rally.


27 posted on 09/02/2017 6:32:04 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Let's start putting signs on Confederate statues that read "DEMOCRAT".)
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To: OttawaFreeper

“Seems like they are the Media Party’s private army.”

Close. Both the Media and Anitfa are parts of the Democrat party - propagandists and soldiers respectively.


28 posted on 09/02/2017 6:36:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: joma89

Yes this antifa business is a wholly new and evil turn in American politics. I feel we are revisiting the Brownshirts of the 1930’s.


29 posted on 09/02/2017 6:36:26 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: vetvetdoug

We will beat love into your hateful hearts


30 posted on 09/02/2017 6:36:33 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: artichokegrower

Or Chicago where the total (so far and last time I looked) the murder rate was approaching 700 mostly black and mostly done by some 42 ‘soldiers’ ...


31 posted on 09/02/2017 6:39:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Vigilanteman

I do not understand why every person with a mask is not arrested


32 posted on 09/02/2017 6:41:06 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: artichokegrower

Thanks to all the left wing groups who are helping out in Houston.
Antifa,NOW,BLM,CHAIR,Laraza...
And thanks for helping out in the big cities feeding the homeless and jobless.
And yes /s


33 posted on 09/02/2017 6:41:19 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: artichokegrower
Apparently this is the part when I’m supposed to jump on the anti-antifa bandwagon.

Wow, talk about being full of yourself.

Who cares what bandwagon you jump on?

I've got a better idea for where you can jump.

34 posted on 09/02/2017 6:45:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: PapaBear3625
Antifa only wants to do their thugishness in jurisdictions where Democrats control the police, both at the local and state level.

They do NOT want to go into areas where their opponents not only have CCW, but juries would be likely to decide that people getting beaten up were acting in self defense when they shot the antifas.

Great point! I don't think I've seen it made by anyone else, and you're exactly right.

35 posted on 09/02/2017 6:47:00 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: artichokegrower

Public School Teachers Behind Violent Antifa Group

>http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/<


36 posted on 09/02/2017 6:56:57 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: artichokegrower

I totally get that the political left has their political agenda and I respect their right to have it. This is America after all. But for them to just label anyone who isn’t on board with them as racists or xenophobes or anti-immigrant is just sad to me. It’s not intelligent debate. It’s anti-intellectual. And, we’re the ones accused of being stupid (Ironically).

I know Antifa is making headlines lately as the political thugs of the left, but this group (in one form or another) has been around since the 1960’s. It has just become sort of an acceptable extension of the Democrat party since Trump got put into office. This group basically stopped conservatives from speaking at colleges about ten years ago. Now, they basically will beat you down if they think you voted for Trump....and some how be credited with doing a good thing by many n the media.

I really think the racial tensions have been and continue to be stoked by Obama and his team. They are just masters at picking at the scabs of out past wounds. His guys know how to press buttons and bring out emotions and to squelch the opposition like no political entity I’ve seen in my lifetime. They make Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson look like amateurs. They’ve succeeded in closing down debate in many ways...and now they are moving in for a final political extermination of opposition thought.

It’s a very nasty play. Most frustrating is that many otherwise good and thoughtful people throw in with the political left because they simply don’t follow politics enough to understand the nuances and they just don’t want to be labeled as ‘racists’. In the end, the ‘virtue signal’ lay low, vote democrat, and go get a coffee at Starbucks.

Politics is not about the art of influencing the ‘informed voter’. It’s about influencing the ‘uninformed voter’ and this is a skill the Democrats have honed and refined much better than their opponents (IE-us). For example, Political violence from the left makes up 99% of incidence in this country and has for many many years, but when one right wing nut group has a rally in Virginia, they make it look like that’s the norm. And, trust me, most people think there’s a problem with right wing violence in this country even though it is essentially non-existent. This is how effective the political left has become.

We have a real fight on our hand. And it’s not about big government vs small government or more immigration vs less immigration or private health care vs government run healthcare. It’s about maintaining a functional democracy.


37 posted on 09/02/2017 7:00:17 AM PDT by Mustangman
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To: artichokegrower

I don’t know how many more examples the rest of right thinking America needs of the demented leftist BS that infects the coasts. These types need to be filtered out and kept out of right leaning states because like a virus, they spread and kill the area they move to. Then they move again and repeat the process. These people want to destroy us. They beat us up and threaten worse yet it still seems the majority of our side still thinks we should turn the other cheek.

Keep this sickness out of your state. They’ve already destroyed Oregon and Washington, and Colorado. Nevada and Arizona are headed in the same direction.


38 posted on 09/02/2017 7:04:33 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: artichokegrower

We thank God everyday we were able to escape from California.


39 posted on 09/02/2017 7:04:55 AM PDT by pugmama (Ports Moon.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Give me a break. Why do we, the lucky residents of the bluest of blue states, need a black-clad army of militants to come to our rescue when every branch of government is dominated by Democrats? And not just any Democrats, but progressive Democrats”

Simple... Because the anarchists can get away with Breaking the law and causing physical harm and physical damage in the state of California. Applying California state law has basically reduced itself into a type of enforcement that assumes the fetal position while sucking its thumb and wetting the bed.


40 posted on 09/02/2017 7:05:01 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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