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Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car...
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | August 31, 2017 | Pamela Manson

Posted on 09/01/2017 7:34:22 AM PDT by BobNative

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To: George from New England
Sounds like the cop(s) know he/they did something illegal and they are trying to create the opportunity to cover their tracks, in a big way.

Could be. Kinda like searching the home of the woman murdered a couple of months ago by a somali muslim cop.

61 posted on 09/01/2017 8:19:25 AM PDT by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: Red Badger

“If he cannot state the source for his ‘authority’ he’s full of crap...................”

How about this:
“[Officer] Payne ... was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.”


62 posted on 09/01/2017 8:20:11 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: wbill
Guy in the hospital can sue the cops, but if he was DUI, then he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Legally, an illegal blood draw should have no bearing on his standing. Logically, we know it will.

63 posted on 09/01/2017 8:20:42 AM PDT by MortMan (Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded! [Y. Berra])
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To: Responsibility2nd

She did keep her cool up to the point that the cop grabed her. This arrest is going to get tossed. She’ll have no arrest record. She held her ground. We need more like her.


64 posted on 09/01/2017 8:21:31 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Responsibility2nd
You should really watch the video. She was just doing her job, following her administrator's instructions and the hospital's procedures which apparently the police department had signed off on.

This is a very frightening situation all around. A cop insisting on drawing blood from an unconscious patient who was the victim in the accident (not the driver being chased). A nurse who rightly refused to perform an unauthorized medical procedure, acting according to the hospital policy, her boss and (apparently) the law. She spelled out to the cop exactly what he needed to do to be able to obtain the blood sample legally, but he wouldn't or couldn't do it.

He basically arrested her because he was mad that he couldn't get his way, even though what he wanted was illegal.
65 posted on 09/01/2017 8:22:14 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: jonno

They are BOTH stupid, and in deep crap.....................


66 posted on 09/01/2017 8:22:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: IYAS9YAS

“Hardly. Patient confidentiality is a very real issue. HIPAA and the 4th Amendment are in play here.
The unconscious person in her hospital was the victim of a head-on collision caused by a perp (who died in this same collision) the Utah police were chasing.
There is no cause for this victim’s blood to be drawn.”

On the contrary, federal law requires a blood test be taken when a commercial truck driver is involved in a fatal collision regardless of who is at fault.


67 posted on 09/01/2017 8:22:50 AM PDT by JoeRed
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To: BobNative

Big tough men should be utterly ashamed. They deserve a punch in the face.


68 posted on 09/01/2017 8:24:47 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hhate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: pnz1

Torres was killed after crossing into the lane of Gray.

Dashcam:

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/08/01/horrific-utah-crash-captured-on-dash-cam-video/


69 posted on 09/01/2017 8:25:33 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: BobNative

They managed to turn that whole hospital into a den of cop hate. Good job a-holes. And all to hopefully try to find dirt on the guy they hospitalized with their deadly chase of someone else.


70 posted on 09/01/2017 8:26:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hhate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

> Perhaps if she kept her cool and didn’t resort to screaming and being dragged... <

That’s actually a fair comment. I don’t agree with it, but it’s a fair comment.

One thing to consider, however, is the nature of the situation. The nurse and the cop were having a calm conversation. No heated words, no raising of voices. No hint of a confrontation. Then all of a sudden the cop exploded and grabbed the nurse.

I gotta tell you, if I’m having a calm conversation with a cop, and then all of a sudden he grabs me, I’m going to react in a primal way. I think anybody would.

Now, if the cop had said from the beginning, “I’m here to arrest you”...well, that’s different. I would expect to be cuffed. I wouldn’t struggle.


71 posted on 09/01/2017 8:26:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: vette6387

Agree with those who say this is why cops are not helping their own image/situation, even if this sort of incident is very much a minority.

With all that cops have to deal with, from being on the front lines and dealing with the fringes of society, to being targeted and blamed for things out of their control, it’s not hard to understand why you’d have a chip on your shoulder as well as having your head on a swivel, and need a certain level of confidence/bravado in order to deal with it all. But I still believe that they need to do a lot of psychological screening for law enforcement. It takes a special kind of person to deal with the crap that they do and not want to take short-cuts and not to completely resent the people you are dealing with and trample their rights. It’s a very hard thing to do. I don’t think I could do it.


72 posted on 09/01/2017 8:26:45 AM PDT by z3n
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To: BobNative

bump


73 posted on 09/01/2017 8:27:26 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Responsibility2nd
Better then to have complied and gotten fired and then arrested, sent to jail, slapped with a big fine and lost her license to practice.

You don't seem to understand that the nurse would have been held responsible for all of this if she had followed Office Jackboot's illegal order.

Perhaps if Office Jackboot had kept his cool and not been so determined to violate both the law and rights of his fellow officer this could have been avoided.

74 posted on 09/01/2017 8:27:46 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: DesertRhino

“They managed to turn that whole hospital into a den of cop hate. Good job a-holes. “


They????

It was ONE cop,one.

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75 posted on 09/01/2017 8:28:31 AM PDT by Mears
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To: jaydubya2

> She held her ground. We need more like her [the nurse]. <

Yes, absolutely. It is not a stretch to call her actions here patriotic. She stood up for the Constitutional rights of another citizen.


76 posted on 09/01/2017 8:29:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thank-you. That was the best laugh of the morning.


77 posted on 09/01/2017 8:30:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Mears

There were more then one cop


78 posted on 09/01/2017 8:31:17 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe, if you’re admitted to a hospital while unconscious, and they remove your gonads because you don’t need them...you’ll be just as understanding.


79 posted on 09/01/2017 8:31:42 AM PDT by moovova
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To: JoeRed; IYAS9YAS

> federal law requires a blood test be taken when a commercial truck driver is involved in a fatal collision regardless of who is at fault <

But that’s something a truck driver knows going into the job. It’s implied consent. For everyone else, the Fourth Amendment applies.


80 posted on 09/01/2017 8:32:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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