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NY Times: Should You Trust Climate Science? Maybe the Eclipse Is a Clue (groan alert)
NY Times ^ | August 18, 2017 | Justin Gillis

Posted on 08/21/2017 8:21:33 AM PDT by Zakeet

For years now, atmospheric scientists have been handing us a set of predictions about the likely consequences of our emissions of industrial gases. These forecasts are critically important, because this group of experts sees grave risks to our civilization. And yet, when it comes to reacting to the warnings of climate science, we have done little.

If the science were brand new, that might make sense, but climate scientists have been making predictions since the end of the 19th century. This is the acid test of any scientific theory: Does it make predictions that ultimately come true?

In the early 20th century, Albert Einstein’s new and controversial theory of relativity predicted that gravity would cause light to bend. It sounded crazy, but a solar eclipse in 1919 provided the opportunity to test it as starlight passed near the blotted-out sun. Einstein’s theory was proved, turning him into a celebrity overnight.

When medicine delivered a wave of vaccines in the 20th century, doctors predicted that widespread use would cause childhood deaths from illnesses like whooping cough and diphtheria to fall. The public trusted the doctors, and those deaths plummeted.

So what predictions has climate science made, and have they come true?

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; eclipse; mediabias; nytimes; solareclipse
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Scientists can accurately predict eclipses ... therefore they can accurately predict global warming!

1 posted on 08/21/2017 8:21:34 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Yep, apples and oranges.

They can predict with some certainty when the Milky Way will collide with Andromeda. 4 billion years. Climate change in 100 years? Not so much.


2 posted on 08/21/2017 8:26:17 AM PDT by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: Zakeet

Scientists can aaccurately predict eclipses decades in advance, but all of their global warming predictions turn out to be wrong, so - yes - this is a clue as to whether we should trust climate science.


3 posted on 08/21/2017 8:27:12 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Zakeet

“This is the acid test of any scientific theory: Does it make predictions that ultimately come true?”

Well climate “science” has already failed on that score since the predicted temperature increases in the last 20 years have not happened.


4 posted on 08/21/2017 8:28:39 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (The CBC: Deceiving Canadians since 1936.)
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To: Zakeet

Science uses the scientific method.

Climate “science” does not use the scientific method.

Any questions?


5 posted on 08/21/2017 8:31:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --Claire Booth Luce)
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To: Zakeet

http://www.weather.gov/images/mkx/top-news/2015/2015WaterLevels.png

Weather.gov doom and gloom on Great Lakes water levels. Latest fail is a rise in water levels of + 4 feet.


6 posted on 08/21/2017 8:31:16 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Zakeet

Wow and to say this with such bravado. He likely doesn’t know an acid from a base, but says, acid test like he’s cool.
He may even be too moronic to be called a useful tool.


7 posted on 08/21/2017 8:33:22 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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To: Zakeet
...they can't or won't accurately predict or call terrorism what it is let alone use that "T" word...


8 posted on 08/21/2017 8:33:50 AM PDT by yoe
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To: C210N
The earliest, made by a Swede named Svante Arrhenius in 1897, was simply that the Earth would heat up in response to emissions. That has been proved: The global average temperature has risen more than 1 degree Celsius, or almost 2 degrees Fahrenheit, a substantial change for a whole planet.

The planet has "warmed" since major league baseball was integrated. For the sake of mankind, action must be taken immediately! Mebbe it wouldn't be too big a risk to wait until after the World Series (latin players pose a real, but smaller risk - 97% of morons agree).

9 posted on 08/21/2017 8:34:06 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: Zakeet

If governments around the world gave grants to scientists to claim that eclipses were impossible you can be sure that it would be “settled science” eclipses do not exist.

Anyone who claimed otherwise would be declared a kook and an extremist.


10 posted on 08/21/2017 8:35:41 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Zakeet
So what predictions has climate science made, and have they come true?

For the most part.... no

11 posted on 08/21/2017 8:39:29 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Zakeet

If I were to face slap myself now I would probably kill myself.


12 posted on 08/21/2017 8:43:26 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: FirstFlaBn
The earliest, made by a Swede named Svante Arrhenius in 1897, was simply that the Earth would heat up in response to emissions. That has been proved: The global average temperature has risen more than 1 degree Celsius, or almost 2 degrees Fahrenheit, a substantial change for a whole planet.

That the temperature rose by 1 degree is not a validation of his hypothesis that emissions would cause warming. There could be any number of causes. He just happened to guess the outcome.

Very scientific.

13 posted on 08/21/2017 8:44:40 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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Some things are really easy to predict when all the pertinent factors are known and the process follows a known and relatively unvarying pattern. Climate studies are nothing like that. Scientists are still trying to gain an understanding of the underlying processes which are probably several magnitudes more complicated than the rotation of bodies in space. This writer is a simpleton.


14 posted on 08/21/2017 8:49:53 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a giant nuclear furnace that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


15 posted on 08/21/2017 8:51:51 AM PDT by abclily
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Too many variables in the equations. Climate science does not exist. It’s political “science”. IOW junk.


16 posted on 08/21/2017 8:58:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Zakeet
"Nonsense"

By Robert J. Gula

17 posted on 08/21/2017 8:59:06 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Zakeet
The mechanics of planetary motion are dramatically better understood than the determinants of climate. Science has a hard time making predictions based upon limited data sets and incomplete understanding of the mechanisms and variables defining any ‘system’. There's a reason the FDA doesn't approve drugs based upon computer modeling. The author of this story is a self-serving zealot who appears to have made his career the same way celebrity climate scientists have made theirs - by alarmism untethered to definitive data.
18 posted on 08/21/2017 9:02:27 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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The NY Slimes proving yet again that they haven’t a clue what science is.
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19 posted on 08/21/2017 9:04:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Zakeet

I know a scientific formula that puts the work of all of the world’s scientists to shame (but I won’t be able to prove it for awhile):

“Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.”—Revelation 20:15

Now THAT’S scientific and a formula that will be proven 100% accurate (unlike their imperfect decrees).

(PS...be found written in that Book!)


20 posted on 08/21/2017 9:05:23 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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