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America is Addicted to Immigrant Labor: Especially When it Comes to Healthcare
Daily Caller ^ | August 16, 2017 | Spencer P Morrison

Posted on 08/17/2017 1:25:32 PM PDT by Thalean

Now that President Trump has signaled his support for the RAISE Act, many Americans are being forced to think about the merits and pitfalls of our legal immigration system. One important problem that has received no attention is how the large-scale immigration of foreign physicians has contributed to the atrophying of our medical schools.

Specifically, America’s universities can no longer train enough medical practitioners to meet the nation’s healthcare demands—America relies on the immigration of foreign professionals to maintain its healthcare system, and standard of living. In a sense, we rely on imported physicians like we rely on foreign oil.

Before beginning, let’s be clear: there are more physicians per capita in America than at any other point in time. There are also more nurses, physiotherapists, and mental health professionals. This is good. But it’s also worth wondering how we got here: was the process organic, or artificial? Do we, as a country, actually have the educational infrastructure to train that many professionals, or are we living in a consumption bubble?

Unfortunately, we are in bubble territory. In 1982/83 America graduated roughly 16,000 physicians. This number has barely budged since. In fact, in 2015 America graduated just 18,705 physicians—that is, 17 percent more. During the same period, America’s total population increased by 39 percent, from 231.7 million in 1982, to 322 million today.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: healthcare; helpwanted; immigration; workforce
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1 posted on 08/17/2017 1:25:32 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: Thalean
Fine. The first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

Time to start making it more attractive to become doctors. Start with tort reform and malpractice insurance reform.

2 posted on 08/17/2017 1:27:51 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

You could also take pressure off of the system by deporting fifteen or twenty million.


3 posted on 08/17/2017 1:29:28 PM PDT by x1stcav (White. Male. Unreconstructed. Never owned a slave.)
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To: Thalean

More “Who’s supposed to pick our cotton?”.


4 posted on 08/17/2017 1:29:30 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: x1stcav

BINGO!!


5 posted on 08/17/2017 1:35:53 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Thalean

It’s market forces. You need more doctors they will produce more doctors


6 posted on 08/17/2017 1:36:58 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: McGavin999

In a free market, that’s true, but the AMA restricts the domestic production of doctors by preventing the accreditation of new medical schools. That is why we have more doctors, but they’re from abroad.


7 posted on 08/17/2017 1:41:19 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't read all day if you don't start early in the morning.)
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To: Thalean

Wasn’t there something years ago about Clinton, and medical schools, criteria, who could, and who couldn’t? Seems to me they destroyed our health care right under our noses.

Basically the problems all started in 1965 with one Senator named Kennedy, and a party of conniving commies calling themselves Democrats intent on plotting the course to our destruction we are now scratching our heads, and clucking about.

Democrats, Kennedy, and the Clintons. A team made in HELL.


8 posted on 08/17/2017 1:42:04 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: x1stcav

This is no secret. As it stands the economy is running on cheap and foreign labor as at least 47% of Americans of every socioeconomic class is unemployed,under employed or on the gov-tit.


9 posted on 08/17/2017 1:43:03 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Texas Eagle
Will anyone ask the Clintons about their so-called solution to the pending doctor glut that was going to be the doom and gloom of the 90s healthcare industry?

List of 90's news articles about paying hospitals to not train doctors.

10 posted on 08/17/2017 1:43:46 PM PDT by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: Thalean

Without infinity 3rd world immigration forever, we will all die!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 08/17/2017 1:44:41 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Texas Eagle

Sorry. No way am I coming out of retirement. I have had it with telling drug seekers why they can’t have any (at least from me).


12 posted on 08/17/2017 1:47:36 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Thalean

Why are we taking all of these doctors from foreign countries? That does seem like a righteous thing to do for either us or them. We need to be educating our own with good jobs. The medical community has always stymied and choked the availability of a medical education system for Americans by choice.


13 posted on 08/17/2017 1:48:14 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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Correction: That does NOT seem like a righteous thing to do for either us or them.


14 posted on 08/17/2017 1:49:39 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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To: Tax-chick

Great book: Paul Starr’s “Social Transformation of American Medicine.” It took 75 years to recover from the glut of doctors the Civil War produced.


15 posted on 08/17/2017 1:50:01 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: McGavin999
"It’s market forces. You need more doctors they will produce more doctors."

You would think, but eight years of college, coupled with four or more years of residency, thrown in with six figure debt allowing you to work in high stress and high regulation environments makes the career of plumbing more appealing.

16 posted on 08/17/2017 1:51:43 PM PDT by buckalfa (Slip sliding away towards senility.)
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To: Thalean

This is a lie. Moreover many of the foreign trained doctors and nurses are horrible


17 posted on 08/17/2017 1:52:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Thalean

Here is an interesting take on the role of government in causing the “shortage” of US-trained physicians:

https://mises.org/library/how-government-helped-create-coming-doctor-shortage


18 posted on 08/17/2017 1:55:17 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: buckalfa
many drs nowadays avoid private practice and join hospitalist groups and have set hrs....long hrs...hard hrs...but defined hrs and when you're off, you're off...no calls...also, you work several days on, but get several days off in between....many of them also sign on to be the medical chief at retirement homes, assisted living, nursing homes....not a bad income...

drs work hard and have to be smart....but sometimes you look at teachers with their fluffy degrees and all the time off and perks and you wonder is it worth going to college/med school/being an intern....and the money it costs...

lets face it...we've made liberal arts a better job than the hard sciences..

19 posted on 08/17/2017 1:57:34 PM PDT by cherry
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To: wastoute

Sounds interesting, but it’s not in my library.


20 posted on 08/17/2017 2:06:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't read all day if you don't start early in the morning.)
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