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Life in fossil-fuel-free utopia
townhall.com ^ | 8/11/2017 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 08/12/2017 6:56:44 AM PDT by rktman

Whatever the reason, far too many people have a pitiful grasp of reality: natural climate fluctuations throughout Earth history; the intricate, often fragile sources of things we take for granted; and what life would really be like in the utopian fossil-fuel-free future they dream of. Let’s take a short journey into that idyllic realm.

Suppose we generate just the 25 billion megawatt-hours of today’s total global electricity consumption using wind turbines. (That’s not total energy consumption, and it doesn’t include what we’d need to charge a billion electric vehicles.) We’d need more than 830 million gigantic 3-megawatt turbines!

Spacing them at just 15 acres per turbine would require 12.5 billion acres! That’s twice the land area of North America! All those whirling blades would virtually exterminate raptors, other birds and bats. Rodent and insect populations would soar. Add in transmission lines, solar panels and biofuel plantations to meet the rest of the world’s energy demands – and the mostly illegal tree cutting for firewood to heat poor families’ homes – and huge swaths of our remaining forest and grassland habitats would disappear.

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KEYWORDS: ecowankers; scc; truebelievers; warmunists
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Not to mention the total destruction of many peoples "view shed". Thursday we were driving from Las Vegas to Ely, NV on US 93 and coming out of Pioche NV headed to Majors NV were 93 intersects with US 50 to head west to Ely. As we proceeded north on 93, about 8 miles out from the junction I could see about a dozen YUGE ugly wind mills in the distance. Now we're talkin' the middle of "NFW" Nevada high desert. To say I was disgusted would be an understatement. Other than that, we saw some awesome scenery and lots of wildlife on the way. Huge terrain changes and botanical changes. Unexpected lakes and wetlands. Pretty cool.
1 posted on 08/12/2017 6:56:44 AM PDT by rktman
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NON print version:

https://townhall.com/columnists/pauldriessen/2017/08/12/life-in-fossilfuelfree-utopia-n2367137


2 posted on 08/12/2017 6:58:48 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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3 posted on 08/12/2017 6:58:59 AM PDT by maddog55 (After years of trying, you actually can't fix stupid.)
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Seems to me that life in fossil-fuel free utopia might closely resemble life in 13th Century Europe utopia....back during the golden ages of human civilization.
4 posted on 08/12/2017 7:01:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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On a fairly regular basis we drive up either I-91 or I-89 in rural (*very* rural) Vermont heading toward Canada.There's some very pretty countryside up there...the hills are particularly scenic regardless of season.But to spoil the view there are all sorts of those ugly wind turbines.

Very,very sad...IMO.

5 posted on 08/12/2017 7:05:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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me and Mine.... we have no problem with either of these options.

We know that humans are part of nature. We are as natural as deer. Nature does not abhor us. We are at the top of the food chain despite having no claws, teeth, or even being particularly strong. If we leave a baby in the rain it will drown. And it will drown for about 2 years. As a creature, you would think that we wouldn’t make it. But here we are.

Human progress is natural. We build shelters above ground. We compartmentalize those structures for different purposes. And the windmills dotting the horizon are part of that splendor. I live in PA and we have a TON of these things. They are like Isaac Asimov stories before our very eyes.

Furthermore, I LOVED the drive down 161 through Indiana into Owensboro KY. Through the mist the nuclear powerplant quietly coalesced before us. It was a beautiful, awe-inspiring sight. The power of the human mind is truly awesome.

Then I drove into the liberal hell hole of Owensboro. Yuch.


6 posted on 08/12/2017 7:12:35 AM PDT by Celerity
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Life in a Fossil Free Utopia

Among the academic bloopers collected by my xgf at a NY university was this gem from 1971, before personal computers.

“Imagine a world without pollution, without resource hogging machines, without polluting factories, without hatred, without weapons, without hatred. Imagine a veritable Ethiopia.

The little darling was closer to the truth than she knew.

7 posted on 08/12/2017 7:14:05 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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Coal is now cleaner and between coal, natural gas and crude oil, we have enough cheap fuel to last probably centuries.

As yet, wind and solar haven’t been proven reliable nor economical. Nuke can, but prolly won’t.


8 posted on 08/12/2017 7:16:07 AM PDT by umgud
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Don’t ya love the smell of dung fires in the morning from the front porch of your mud hut?


9 posted on 08/12/2017 7:16:55 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Okay - I’m a Luddite. I love petroleum and petrochemicals! I really enjoy my big Ford with 500 hp and the sound of the exhaust through it’s headers. I don’t have ABS brakes or traction control - okay, so I have to buy new rear tires frequently, it’s not so bad hanging out at the tire shop :=)

I don’t want a self driving car. I don’t want an electric car.


10 posted on 08/12/2017 7:26:28 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Fun read. Thanks for posting.

I’ll enjoy the lights, conveniences and comforts of our home a little more tonight.


11 posted on 08/12/2017 7:27:58 AM PDT by Starboard
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if these people had lived thru ww2 they would know what it’s like.


12 posted on 08/12/2017 7:36:41 AM PDT by old gringo (a wise monkey never monkeys with another monkeys monkey.)
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Read about the fossil fuel free power utopia in SW Australia. They converted to almost all wind power and guess what? The wind stopped blowing.

wind power fails

13 posted on 08/12/2017 7:43:52 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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“Suppose we generate just the 25 billion megawatt-hours of today’s total global electricity consumption using wind turbines. (That’s not total energy consumption, and it doesn’t include what we’d need to charge a billion electric vehicles.) We’d need more than 830 million gigantic 3-megawatt turbines! “

I double-checked the math. I think they are way off.


14 posted on 08/12/2017 7:45:27 AM PDT by TexasGator
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Can you imagine how much of the earth’s surface would have to be mined to supply the materials to build all this? In a Utopian world money grows on trees and raw materials just appear out of thin air. They ignore the reality of cause and effect.


15 posted on 08/12/2017 7:45:48 AM PDT by Openurmind
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That is utopian, indeed.

Shivering in the dark in your cave, while sharpening your spears to fight off the horde outside that can’t get their own cave.

On the upside, it would take your mind off Russia & North Korea pretty quick.


16 posted on 08/12/2017 7:50:24 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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Okay - I’m a Luddite. I love petroleum and petrochemicals! I really enjoy my big Ford with 500 hp and the sound of the exhaust through it’s headers. I don’t have ABS brakes or traction control - okay, so I have to buy new rear tires frequently, it’s not so bad hanging out at the tire shop :=)

Hey, tire guys have to put dinner on the table too. Ahhh, the sweet smell of roasting tires!
17 posted on 08/12/2017 7:52:21 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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The Golden Age of human civilization lasted from about 620 AD to about 1500 AD ... Today, various overseas contingents and local supporters are attempting to undue the ravages of time and cultural error to restore human civilization to its former glory ...


18 posted on 08/12/2017 7:52:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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I double-checked the math myself, and got an answer I don’t trust, but it may be correct if all 830 million wind turbines run at full power non-stop.

A highly-dubious proposition.


19 posted on 08/12/2017 7:56:24 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Let them live through one GOOD hurricane, and the aftermath, then get back to me.


20 posted on 08/12/2017 7:58:52 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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