Here’s how to take out North Korea’s nukes

The New York Post, America's oldest continuously circulating newspaper ^ | August 9, 2017 | Ralph Peters

[TBP]

The first step should begin immediately, well in advance and without firing a shot. All military family members, all Department of Defense civilian employees and all nonessential contractors should be evacuated from South Korea. Want to get North Korea’s attention? That single act would serve as a graver warning of our readiness than any amount of sanctions or saber-rattling.

Initially, we’d launch a surprise air and naval campaign, with ground forces deployed only in defense of South Korea. Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile-development facilities and arsenals wouldn’t be in the initial target set. First, we’d have to overwhelm and destroy North Korea’s air defenses, while simultaneously degrading Pyongyang’s military command, control and communications to cripple any response.

Then, rapidly, we’d go for the missile and nuke infrastructure. And here’s where we’d have to show our will to win. Wrecking bunkered sites isn’t enough. Research, development and production facilities can be rebuilt.

We’d need to strike, without warning, the dormitory facilities and housing areas for the scientists, designers, technicians, skilled workers and military cadres involved in North Korea’s nuclear-weapons and missile programs. If we’re unwilling to do that, we’d merely be buying ourselves a minor delay at extravagant cost.

And then we need to be prepared to counter any North Korean conventional blows against South Korea.

[Alter Kaker]

The NY Post isn’t the nation’s oldest circulating newspaper. The Hartford Courant I think is - pretty sure it’s the 13th oldest.

[TBP]

The Post was founded by Alexander Hamilton and has been in continuous circulation since.

[Alter Kaker]

The Post was founded by Alexander Hamilton and has been in continuous circulation since.

Understood. But that doesn't make it the oldest continuously circulating newspaper.

[Thud]

The engineers of South Korea's army are as good as ours, which is saying a whole lot. The DMZ is a real close-in obstacle which initially won't be clogged with North Korean refugees going any place else they can get to, so its obstacles can be cleared, and good-enough roads made, unbelievably fast compared to MSM misconceptions based on 30 year-old conventional wisdom. It isn't 1985 any more.

The farther an obstacle is from the South Korean border, the more of an obstacle it will be to the South Korean armed forces. And North Korea really is one **** mountain after another.

[jonrick46]

I wonder if the warheads can give off enough radiation to be detected from the air? Satellites?

[Fitzy_888]

North Korea has two nuclear reactors, presumably with tons of of spent fuel on site. Do we have the will to create another Chernobyl? Cause that’s where I’d wide my bombs and vital components => the one place you can’t ethically bomb.

[plain talk]

What happens when lil Kimmy puts some nuclear waste - the really bad kind, like plutonium contaminated crap - in one of the missiles you're going to shoot down and aims towards the Sea of Japan, say 30 miles of the coast of our #1 Asian ally and you blow it out of the air? Great idea.

Absolutely. Destroying it in the air over open sea is preferable to letting it land in a populated city. If we destroy their test missiles in the air they may get the idea their missiles are not going to make it through.

I didn't understand your comment about families in Seoul. The idea of the article was to get the families out of Seoul before any military action occurs. As it is they are sitting ducks.

[Yosemitest]

The ONLY ONE that must have the "WILL" is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF !
The rest of the people ... that would actually DO the job, ... MUST FOLLOW HIS ORDERS !

[EQAndyBuzz]

This is how I would go about it. On the first night when the winds are blowing north, launch a tactical nuke strike of the front lines and take out every piece of Nork artillery and most of the Nork army in one fell swoop. At that point, nothing can come south without being destroyed by radiation.

By doing this, civilian populations are unharmed or damage is minimal while at the same time the North’s fighting capability and 60 year old strategy is gone. If Kim decides to launch a missile at the US, Japan or South Korea, ABM batteries are spun up and a secondary launch prepared once the North’s missile(s) are shot out of the sky or destroyed in their launchers. The US counter strike then is aimed at the North’s leadership since they will all be with Kim.

The entire war won’t last more than an hour, millions of civilians are spared death and China can clean up the mess. There would be no way in hell that the UN will declare the US committed crimes against humanity since the strike was designed to preserve humanity, unlike 100,000 artillery pieces aimed at the civilian population of Seoul.

[DNME]

We can only guess how much hot intel South Korea has compiled. They’ve been gathering this stuff for generations.

Naturally they won’t give us everything they know, but what they’ve got must be YUUUGE.

[Garth Tater]

Absolutely. Destroying it in the air over open sea is preferable to letting it land in a populated city.

But Little Kimmy is not sending this missile to a populated city. He is sending it to the open sea. You are sending the nuclear waste towards the populated city when you blow up the missile that would have caused no harm if you hadn't blown it up. I don't think the Japanese are going to be willing to go along with your plan.

I didn't understand your comment about families in Seoul. The idea of the article was to get the families out of Seoul before any military action occurs. As it is they are sitting ducks.

Our troops and their families are there precisely to be sitting ducks. They are not now and never have been on the Korean DMZ to stop an invasion by North Koreans. They are there as a sacrificial trip wire - doomed to be overrun. North Korea knows that they can't kill all those American soldiers and families without absolutely guaranteeing that we retaliate with total ferocity. The South Koreans expect us to stand with them. Taking out our families and non-essential personnel looks exactly like what is - a repudiation of that guarantee. South Korea is a non-nuclear nation only because we guarantee their safety with the trip wire of our sacrificial troops. Is that a little clearer?

[plain talk]

If Kim decides to launch a missile at the US, Japan or South Korea, ABM batteries are spun up and a secondary launch prepared once the North’s missile(s) are shot out of the sky or destroyed in their launchers.

I like your idea. It's akin to what I have been saying. Except instead of launching a first strike I would just shoot down every test missile they launch. There may not even be a war once they see none of their missiles will get through. If they are stupid enough to proceed then we go ahead with a plan like yours and strike first. The key IMO is to allow them to launch first and make it clear to world we are acting defensively.

I don't believe Trump will launch a first strike as it is. It is difficult to prove after the fact what an enemy like NK would have done if we had not struck first. I think Trump wants to prod NK into making the first move. I say let NK launch first but destroy every missile they launch in the air over open sea.

[GOPJ]

That’s too much like hitting at a bee hive.

[hal ogen]

How so? Appeasement is idiocy.

[vooch]

pluz - North Korea isn’t Nazi Germany. The appeasement argument is a fail.

South Korea can easily handle North Korea if necessary. South Korea is 81 times bigger than the Norks.

You are being played by the neocons.

[DannyTN]

True,

I was wondering how hard it would be to blow up every fuel depot and fuel tanker in NK.

I understand they are dependent on fuel coming in from China. Seems like that would be an easy bottleneck to control. And would quickly grind the country to a halt.

[DNME]

With my limited but colorful contact with special forces types, I’d say with some confidence that our guys have already been visiting North Korea for quite some time.

Little stuff that the Norks couldn’t possibly report such as trucks blowing up mysteriously, sentries dying for no reason, that kinda stuff. But I’m sure our guys are there, taking tourist pictures.