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Regulating Guns
Townhall.com ^ | August 9, 2017 | John Stossel

Posted on 08/09/2017 9:30:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

Have a gun license? Plan to bring your gun to my hometown? Don't.

Mean New York authorities will make your life miserable.

Patricia Jordan and her daughter flew here from her home state of Georgia. She wanted her gun nearby for protection.

Jordan obeyed all the Transportation Security Administration's rules: She put her gun in a locked TSA-approved case with its bullets separate. She informed the airline that she had a gun. The airline had no problem with that.

In New York City, she kept the gun locked in her hotel room. She never needed it, but her daughter told me, "I was glad she brought it just in case something did happen."

When leaving the city, Jordan followed the TSA's rules again. At the airline counter, she again told the agent she wanted to check her gun. But this time, she was told: "Wait."

"Next thing I know, they're getting ready to arrest me," she said.

Her daughter was crying, "Please don't arrest my mom!" But New York City cops arrested her, jailed her and told her she was guilty of a felony that mandates a minimum 3 1/2 years in jail.

Jordan's ordeal is not unique. Roughly once a week, New York City locks up people for carrying guns legally licensed by other states.

Another Georgia visitor, Avi Wolf, was jailed although he didn't even have a gun. He just had part of a gun -- an empty magazine -- a little plastic box with a small metal spring. He brought it to the city because it wasn't working well and he thought a New York friend might repair it. He couldn't believe he was being arrested.

"Somebody could've done more damage to an individual with a fork from McDonald's," Wolf told me.

Wolf, too, checked with the TSA beforehand. They said, just declare it to TSA agents. So he did.

"I'm telling them ... I have a magazine here. It's empty, no bullets ... Next thing I know they're pulling me over to the side, they're like, 'Do you know what you have in your bag?!' 'I know what I have in my bag, I told you what I have in my bag.'"

Following TSA instructions didn't do Wolf any good. "Fast forward about an hour and it was four Port Authority police there. The chief of LaGuardia airport is there, [as if] they thought they found somebody trying to do 9/11 repeat," he says.

"They asked me if I had a gun license. Of course I had a license. I'm from Georgia, and everybody there's got a gun license. And they're like, well, sir, you're going to be getting arrested now."

Wolf and Jordan spent less than a day in jail, but each had to pay lawyers $15,000 to bargain the felony charge down to "public disorder."

"We are not going to apologize for enforcing our gun laws," said Assistant District Attorney Jack Ryan when I confronted him about these pointless and cruel arrests. He said New York City enforces laws as "humanely and as compassionately as we can."

But the system is neither fair nor humane.

Patricia Jordan kept her bullets separate from her gun, as TSA regulations require.

"The officer could not even find my bullets in my suitcase. I had to show him where they were," she told me.

That didn't matter, said the DA, because the gun and bullets were in the same suitcase.

"Under New York law, if they're together, they're loaded," says Ryan.

"They're loaded even if they're not loaded?!" I asked. Yes, he said.

I called him a sadistic bully (the full video is at JohnStossel.com). He replied that New York City must make sure people are "not threats."

New York claims this keeps us safe. But people like Jordan and Wolf actually make us safer. Texas data shows licensed gun owners are seven times less likely to murder someone than a nonlicensed person. They also prevent some crimes. Nationwide, crime has dropped as the percentage of people with concealed handgun permits has risen.

Licensed gun owners aren't the problem. Crazy laws and callous prosecution are.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; newyorkcity; righttoarms
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To: smokingfrog

Yes, their gun laws are insane, but this lady invited the mess by bringing a handgun to NYC. She follows every TSA rule and requirement, but ignores the rules and laws of the state and city of NY?
Asking for trouble IMO.
Staying the hell out of NY is always the smart choice.


81 posted on 08/09/2017 4:33:48 PM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: Kaslin

That is why I stay out of New York at all costs. Years ago, I was offered a job with a huge salary, about 3 1/2 times what I was making in Philadelphia. I turned it down because of the stupid laws in New York. I wanted the salary, but not at those costs.


82 posted on 08/09/2017 4:49:52 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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To: TexasGator

Thanks, I had never seen any annotation on that “Why I carry a gun” story.


83 posted on 08/09/2017 4:56:32 PM PDT by PROCON (President Reagan, your worthy successor has arrived to save our beloved America)
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To: sergeantdave

Truth really is stranger than fiction. When Michael Bloomberg was mayor of NYC he threatened to send NYPD “agents” to South Carolina to attempt purchases of handguns that would `wind up on the streets of New York’ (they all originate in the disgusting backward South, you see). Then they would sic BATFE on the FFL holders.

Our Governor warned Bloomers that any NYPD caught doing this in S.C. would be locked up & the key thrown away until he personally came to the state to request their release.

Bloomberg blinked.


84 posted on 08/09/2017 7:17:19 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

...ding ding ding...

we have a winner.....


85 posted on 08/10/2017 6:26:04 AM PDT by QualityMan (The Adults are back in town)
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To: Kaslin
It's simple. Stay out of States and cities that really aren't part of the United States of America and pretend to be but instead are actually 3rd world $hitholes. That would include New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Washington DC, California, Illinois, Rhode Island, Connecticut, ...

You can usually easily identify them on the red/blue map of the past elections. They would be the "blue" parts.

86 posted on 08/10/2017 7:50:32 AM PDT by Gritty (Dear Elitists: Trump is not our last chance. He's your last chance. - Kurt Schlicter)
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To: Kaslin

I used to go to NYC each year. Now I will not step foot in it for any reason. For all intents and purposes, NYC is not part of the USA when they do not follow our laws.


87 posted on 08/10/2017 5:37:03 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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