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Cal State will no longer require placement exams and remedial classes for freshmen
LA Times ^ | August 3, 2017 | Rosanna Xia

Posted on 08/05/2017 11:51:19 AM PDT by lowbridge

Cal State plans to drop placement exams in math and English as well as the noncredit remedial courses that more than 25,000 freshmen have been required to take each fall — a radical move away from the way public universities traditionally support students who come to college less prepared than their peers.

In an executive order issued late Wednesday, Chancellor Timothy P. White directed the nation’s largest public university system to revamp its approach to remedial education and assess new freshmen for college readiness and course placement by using high school grades, ACT and SAT scores, previous classroom performance and other measures that administrators say provide a more accurate and comprehensive understanding of students’ knowledge.

Cal State will no longer make those students who may need extra help take the standardized entry-level mathematics (ELM) exam and the English placement test (EPT).

The new protocol, which will go into effect in fall 2018, “facilitates equitable opportunity for first-year students to succeed through existing and redesigned education models,” White wrote in a memorandum to the system’s 23 campus presidents, who will be responsible for working with faculty to implement the changes. The hope is that these efforts will also help students obtain their degrees sooner — one of the public university system's priorities. Cal State has committed to doubling its four-year graduation rate, from 19% to 40%, by 2025.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: lowbridge

As if we needed another reason to not go to college.


21 posted on 08/05/2017 12:03:56 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Just watch the You Tube videos with Mark Dice to see how stupid and ignorant the college students are....but then, the schools are run by Marxists/lefties so they want them to be sheep.


22 posted on 08/05/2017 12:04:32 PM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: CdMGuy
Unless they get the teachers to lower their standards, these students will be flunking out sooner than under the present system. That could be a good thing.

Maybe, but I'm not sure how that gets the 4-year graduation rate from 19% to 40% in 7-8 years.

Removing the standard to test for English almost certainly helps the illegals in the state.

23 posted on 08/05/2017 12:04:58 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: lowbridge

Color me surprised.


24 posted on 08/05/2017 12:06:55 PM PDT by heights
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To: lowbridge

I may be wrong, but I suspect that Cal State is being redesigned to be more like high school level used to be. As for remedial courses, I can remember when there was no such thing!

I maintain that the only thing that will restore this nation is a complete collapse of the *system* and then a miraculous rebirth ...based on God.


25 posted on 08/05/2017 12:16:51 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: lowbridge
And in 2 or 3 years the CA government school system will announce how many ill prepared students are graduating now because they can avoid those difficult subjects!


26 posted on 08/05/2017 12:21:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CatOwner
Removing the standard to test for English almost certainly helps the illegals in the state

Follow the money. It also helps the foreign Asian students paying full fare for STEM majors..

27 posted on 08/05/2017 12:35:46 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: dfwgator

Sick, isn’t it?!


28 posted on 08/05/2017 12:45:58 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: lowbridge

Standards?
Mexifornia don’t need no stinkin’ standards.


29 posted on 08/05/2017 12:50:10 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Rennes Templar

Having to take classes is raciss.


30 posted on 08/05/2017 2:19:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: lowbridge

Pretty soon people will get their law degrees at Costco. I saw it in the movie Idiocrocy which really foretells the future.


31 posted on 08/05/2017 2:39:26 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: lowbridge

I think it was George Carlin who said of lowering standards, “The only thing you’ll need to get into a college is a warm body and a pencil”.

Or something like that.


32 posted on 08/05/2017 2:42:25 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

An older friend described that system in place during the Vietnam War; colleges expanded rapidly as “students” flocked there for deferments, and have been on a slow decline ever since (as the deferments were no longer needed). They’ve tried to replace the American students with foreigners, and when that didn’t suffice they simply went back to admitting anyone interested.


33 posted on 08/06/2017 2:51:11 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: proud American in Canada

You’re encountering the first wave of students who have never read a book purely for pleasure/enrichment; get used to it. The “post-reading” population has morphed into a “post-working” population - not just unwilling to work, but increasingly, unable to perform simple tasks at a job.


34 posted on 08/06/2017 2:54:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SumProVita

When I was in college years ago, the remedial classes (all contained in one building on campus) were all filled with preferred minorities (black, Hispanic, women); there was a good explanation for that. White/Asian men that would have required “remediation” had been rejected outright by the college; those classes were designed to bring preferred minorities up to the level of a white/Asian male high school graduate (and it could take a couple of years).


35 posted on 08/06/2017 2:57:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: lowbridge

FTA: Having so many students start their freshman year being told that they are already behind and giving them just one year to dig themselves out also doesn’t help foster a sense of social or academic belonging, officials said.

So the SJW’s would feel sad and that would be bad.
Upon entering Cal State they are given a box of crayons and stuffed animals.


36 posted on 08/06/2017 1:02:03 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: kearnyirish2; proud American in Canada
You’re encountering the first wave of students who have never read a book purely for pleasure/enrichment; get used to it. The “post-reading” population has morphed into a “post-working” population - not just unwilling to work, but increasingly, unable to perform simple tasks at a job.

Ever been caught in public reading an interesting book, and someone passes by and asks you, "Is that for a class?"?

37 posted on 08/06/2017 1:06:23 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: kearnyirish2
You’re encountering the first wave of students who have never read a book purely for pleasure/enrichment; get used to it. The “post-reading” population has morphed into a “post-working” population - not just unwilling to work, but increasingly, unable to perform simple tasks at a job.



"... And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!"

38 posted on 08/06/2017 1:08:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: willk

“Welcome to Costco, I love you.”


39 posted on 08/06/2017 1:10:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: thecodont

No, but that is so sad...


40 posted on 08/06/2017 2:23:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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