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To: Mat_Helm
And if a future Congress passed laws restricting magazine size or type of firearm that states could allow would people be happy with that as well?

It's a 10th Amendment issue. Leave it at that.

10 posted on 08/02/2017 8:45:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Tell that to the people living in New York, California, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Illinois, and other states already living in a restricted hell and outlaws in their own country from unconstitutional laws already that nobody does anything about.

We already have more damage being done and if you think this will not migrate to other states you would be mistaken. This needs to be enacted at the Federal level and would also make unconstitutional laws more quickly advance to the SCOTUS. It is far to long to let states like California and New York get away with this garbage and have conservatives move away only to allow these states to be totally overrun with democratic majorities.

12 posted on 08/02/2017 8:54:40 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: DoodleDawg

I’m against the feds meddling in areas that belong to the states, but IMO the 2d Amendment is a federal, Constitutional issue.

US citizens should NOT be barred from keeping and bearing arms with a patchwork of state restrictions. If I buy a gun in state A, I ought to be able to travel with it anywhere in the US without a problem.

Restricting magazine size would be, IMO, unconstitutional.


14 posted on 08/02/2017 8:58:47 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: DoodleDawg

This is a bit different IMHO. Aren’t all the States guaranteed a republican form of government? Setting a minimum standard of liberty in such a clear cut area would seem much different than Congress doing the opposite. And before anyone makes the argument about federal imposition of Sodomite whatever posing as marriage, that is at minimum a 10th amendment issue, but also an issue of religious freedom, freedom of association etc. People who self-identify as Sodomites were always free to marry someone of the opposite biological sex.


17 posted on 08/02/2017 9:02:51 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: DoodleDawg

So, it’s OK if the states outlaw all firearms, because, after all, “it’s a 10th Amendment issue,” and to hell with what the U.S. Constitution has to say about the RKBA, or any other Amendment in the BoR ... Does that about sum up your attitude?


18 posted on 08/02/2017 9:06:41 AM PDT by JME_FAN
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To: DoodleDawg

Yep, you’re right. There’s endless Federal meddling and ever-growing Federal power. If a state law on anything is broken, it is up to the people of that State to fix it.


20 posted on 08/02/2017 9:17:09 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: DoodleDawg

It’s a SECOND AMENDMENT issue ... the state AND federal “gun control laws” are all unconstitutional.


25 posted on 08/02/2017 9:30:15 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: DoodleDawg
It's a 10th Amendment issue.

Here's the 10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The gun regulations imposed by some States are "prohibited by it" (i.e., the Constitution) via the Second Amendment, which applies to the States through the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. So this is not a 10th Amendment issue.

28 posted on 08/02/2017 9:39:18 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: DoodleDawg
>And if a future Congress passed laws restricting magazine size or type of firearm that states could allow would people be happy with that as well?

I don't understand your point. Federal gun control laws already apply to all the states. Do you recall the 1994 Federal AWB? NFA 34? GCA 68?

It appears this proposed law attempts to prevent states from enacting more stringent gun laws than the Feds impose. Why it's limited to long guns I have no idea. It's probably all just red meat for the base anyway. /cynical

52 posted on 08/02/2017 11:48:46 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker (Any)
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To: DoodleDawg
It's a 10th Amendment issue. Leave it at that.

The 10th Amendment was dead on arrival and remains dead. Maybe we should have a con-con and pass it again because the first one isn't working.

55 posted on 08/02/2017 12:31:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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