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GOP senators break with Trump over transgender troop ban
The Hill ^ | 07/26/2017 | John Bowden

Posted on 07/26/2017 10:39:55 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: Bob434

Clear, to the point and magnificent.

You never really know the character of what appear to be normal people until you stress the subject.

When the character is suspect already you don’t need to test it.

I still don’t think women belong in combat either. Dysentery in a mortar pit is no place for a woman. That is just for starters. GI Jane is a myth.


141 posted on 07/26/2017 12:31:55 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: GIdget2004

Contact them FREEPers. Ernst is a BIG disappointment. Shelby too.


142 posted on 07/26/2017 12:33:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ohioman

People should be happy he has shown his colors so they can vote him out. They should have plenty of time to organize that.


143 posted on 07/26/2017 12:33:42 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Good list to go by. Cornyn is my least favorite though I think. I just have a deep personal disliking of the creep. When I lived in Texas I ran into him at a distance once and thought it would be better if I did not meet him face-to-face. I find him disgusting and reprehensible. He is an insult to decent men.


144 posted on 07/26/2017 12:37:48 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: GIdget2004

Are any of them up for re-election in 2018, so we can Primary them out?


145 posted on 07/26/2017 12:38:09 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

I know Hatch is up for re-election this cycle.


146 posted on 07/26/2017 12:40:18 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: GIdget2004
The Department of Defense has already decided to allow currently-serving transgender individuals to stay in the military, and many are serving honorably today.

Dear Senator McCain,

The Department of Defense works for the president.

147 posted on 07/26/2017 12:49:44 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: GIdget2004

Always good to know where people stand.


148 posted on 07/26/2017 12:59:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: napscoordinator

Sen. Richard Shelby is getting a letter and with all of the military in this state, I wouldn’t be surprised if he got more than one.


149 posted on 07/26/2017 1:11:15 PM PDT by Waryone (2 Chronicles 7:14; praise God for His great mercy)
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To: GIdget2004

The change in policy is fine, and is almost certainly within his constitutional powers.

The issue is that he seems to have announced this by Tweet without consulting anyone or notifying the Pentagon. There’s a story today that people in the Pentagon waited nine minutes between Tweet #1 and Tweet #2 to learn what the President was ordering. A withdrawal from Afghanistan? An invasion of North Korea?

And no one knows what it means. Are current soldiers going to be discharged? What’s the process for that?

This is a repeat of the travel ban where they were literally making up the rules as they went along for the first day. For a while, no one knew if citizens overseas were banned from returning.


150 posted on 07/26/2017 1:14:53 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

From what I’ve read, she’s opposed to providing surgery and she may be on board with preventing enlistment going forward. Her issue is with current personnel.

I still don’t know what the policy is there.


151 posted on 07/26/2017 1:16:15 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: PCPOET7
I have no problem with some one who claims they are transgendered serving.

You ever actually served in the military? I have. Grunt in the Army. I have a BIG problem with transgenders in the military. Gays, too. People sitting at home safe in their houses can say things like "I don't have a problem with X,Y,Z in the military" because it isn't their life put at risk so a bunch of wannabe social engineers can feel gloriously tolerant of every perversion and mental illness.
152 posted on 07/26/2017 1:17:20 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: GIdget2004
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153 posted on 07/26/2017 1:19:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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154 posted on 07/26/2017 1:21:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: apillar
So the real news is only four Republicans broke with Trump, nowhere near the 2/3 or 67 votes it would take to force through legislation overturning the ban and overriding a veto....

However, it is easy for them to posture in advance of legislation, then become spineless linguini what it's time to stand up, vote and be counted. Just look at Obamacare repeal -- seven years of posturing, chest-thumping, and braying about repeal. That got us the House, Senate, and Presidency. But, when it's time to do the deed, they all turn tail and run.

I harbor no doubts that if legislation is introduced to prevent mentally ill trannies from serving from the military it will be solidly voted down. If a miracle happens and it passes, it'll be challenged in the courts for years. Our "side" works against us and the serious interests of the nation time after time after time.

155 posted on 07/26/2017 1:25:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: GIdget2004

More proof that multiple GOP senators are fools.


156 posted on 07/26/2017 1:27:40 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl
This will not go over very well with his constituents & I am one of them. I’m ashamed of his actions.

I am one as well. I'll remember this when his term is up.

157 posted on 07/26/2017 1:35:13 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: GIdget2004

Queer money must really be important.

However, making a statement should allow the money flow to continue.

I heard that queer money give you AIDS


158 posted on 07/26/2017 1:39:25 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: GIdget2004
A little research:

So, how many transgender people currently serve in the military?

Well, a 2016 RAND Corporation study showed that of the approximately 1.3 million people who are considered active-duty members of the military in 2014, about 2,450 of them are transgender, making up about just 0.1-0.5 percent of the active-duty military. In addition, it’s estimated that about 1,510 transgender people serve in the Selected Reserve.

As far as future estimates, the study predicted that about 40-190 military personnel would seek gender transition per year, 30-140 would seek hormone therapy per year and 25-130 would seek actual surgical treatment a year.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9909.html

For me thr take home point is that ~5% would seek surgery in a year and the same number start hormone therapy. How will this affect their ability to serve to full capacity. This is an issue that that these service people should resolve in the pivate sector, outside of the military.

159 posted on 07/26/2017 2:12:57 PM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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From the

Army Outlines Path to Transgender Transition - 2016>

Reading the article the process can usually take several years, cost ten thousand or more for surgery, $100 a month for hormone treatments, not to mention counseling. In the mean time they are to be treated as any other soldier requiring medical attention. When the hell do these clowns get down to doing actual soldering before their term of enlistment is up?

160 posted on 07/26/2017 2:25:39 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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