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Senate Votes Down Broad Obamacare Repeal
NY Times ^ | July 25, 2017 | THOMAS KAPLAN and ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 07/25/2017 7:24:08 PM PDT by Innovative

The Senate voted narrowly on Tuesday to begin debate on a bill to repeal major provisions of the Affordable Care Act, but hours later, Republican leaders suffered a setback when their most comprehensive plan to replace President Barack Obama’s health law fell far short of the votes it needed.

The Tuesday night tally needed to reach 60 votes to overcome a parliamentary objection. Instead, it fell 43-57. The fact that the comprehensive replacement plan came up well short of even 50 votes was an ominous sign for Republican leaders still grappling with a formula to pass final health care legislation this week.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aca; healthcare; healthcarevote; mitchcare; obamacare; obamacare2; repeal; senate; trumpcare
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To: Freedom56v2

This amendment wasn’t a repeal. It was repeal AND replace with a weird hybrid of changes to Obamacare.

Paul said Mitch promised him a vote on a repeal amendment if Paul voted to allow debate, which he did. So a true vote on repeal should be coming.


41 posted on 07/25/2017 8:54:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: From The Deer Stand
I thought they wanted repeal for seven years, not repeal and replace. While some of those voting no don't want it repealed, others like Paul and Lee are repeal only. They would rather see Obamacare crash under it's own weight then replace it with some Obamacare Lite. I want the government out of the health care business!!
42 posted on 07/25/2017 8:59:46 PM PDT by Blackhawk73 (You only win with conservatism.)
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To: Innovative

Of the nine Republicans who voted no, only two are up for reelection in 2018: Corker of Tennessee and Heller of Nevada.
The no votes: Susan Collins (Maine), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Tom Cotton (Ark.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Dean Heller (Nev.), Mike Lee (Utah), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rand Paul


43 posted on 07/25/2017 9:17:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Innovative
Rand Paul, Mike Lee, etc. voted against this.

No one thought this would pass. The media is deliberately misleading in their reporting to create another 'Republicans in disarray' narrative.

44 posted on 07/25/2017 9:25:17 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: mrsmith
NO votes: Collins, Corker, Cotton, Graham, Heller, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul

Going to be and interesting re-elexction season for these A holes. I don't think they have a clue how pissed of the people back home are.

45 posted on 07/25/2017 9:26:14 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Nero Germanicus

My notes for Tennessee show that Larry Crim has announced that
he will run against Bob Corker in the primaries.

I do not see a challenger for Nevada’s Dean Heller


46 posted on 07/25/2017 9:33:05 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Innovative

Stop giving ACA TLC!


47 posted on 07/25/2017 9:36:23 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Innovative

Repeal.

Repeal. Repeal. Repeal. Repeal. Repeal. Repeal. Repeal.

THEN work on replacement.


48 posted on 07/25/2017 9:36:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Repeal The 17th
My notes for Tennessee show that Larry Crim has announced that he will run against Bob Corker in the primaries.

Excellent. The more pro-Trump primary challengers there are to run against weak-kneed GOPe Swamp Things who refuse to have the President's back, the better.

I anticipate the Democrats getting slaughtered in 2018, but, hopefully, there will also be a much stronger and passionate class of pro-Trump Republicans as well.

The Swamp will never be drained unless both of these things happen...

49 posted on 07/25/2017 9:37:27 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Kickass Conservative

Keep in mind that what they call repeal does not repeal, it amends.

The Republican party is GARBAGE.


50 posted on 07/25/2017 9:40:29 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Innovative

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


51 posted on 07/25/2017 9:40:52 PM PDT by gasport (Smash the Beast - starvation takes too long)
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To: wjcsux

If tom cotton had done the right thing he wouldn’t have voted for cloture to allow a vote to fund the original Obama care. He could have let the gov shutdown seven years ago and brought this nonsense to a head before it started. I have no use for my senator, have yet to see him use his backbone as a politician, definitely not a statesman. Another RINO lite.


52 posted on 07/25/2017 9:41:27 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: elpadre

3/5, not 2/3 of the senate is required to pass this kind of bill (unless the gop goes nuclear and changes the rules). Here is another fun fact: without the 3/5 rule, the senate would have passed amnesty and GW Bush would have signed it into law.


53 posted on 07/25/2017 9:42:08 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Why didn't the FBI examine DNC servers?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Time for new blood...

Corrected to the only solution that will enforce actual change.

54 posted on 07/25/2017 9:50:38 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Time for new blood...”

No, time to man the pitchforks and head for our Versailles.


55 posted on 07/25/2017 9:58:34 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Innovative

The GOP needs to go away so a genuine party of opposition can replace them.

Damn them all to hell.

The only one down there worth anything is Trump. They are crap. Crap. Gutless cowards.


56 posted on 07/25/2017 10:05:52 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

>> Time for new blood...

Precisely, and 2018 can bring that. We have much opportunity in the Senate, and of course, the House is completely up for grabs.

A national effort must be made to dethrone McConnell and Ryan while installing the new blood you speak of. And “we the people” must bitch-slap the RNC into complying.


57 posted on 07/25/2017 10:10:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Freedom56v2

Those three voted no because this was not repeal, it was repair Obamacare.
It leaves too much of it in place.
The others don’t want any of it repealed.


58 posted on 07/25/2017 10:11:50 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Billyv

I didn’t know that Tom Cotton was in the Senate when Obamacare was enacted.


59 posted on 07/25/2017 10:22:03 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: Nero Germanicus

I recall that POTUS Trump previously stated that he would support a GOP candidate running against Heller in NV.


60 posted on 07/25/2017 10:41:14 PM PDT by octex
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