Posted on 07/21/2017 12:23:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH:I just heard about it this morning. I mean, the details of it. There are two people that are primarily responsible for the TV show Game of Thrones, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss — and they are, admittedly, great at what they do. They are the showrunners for Game of Thrones. Well, we’re in the penultimate season for Game of Thrones, season 7. There’s one more season, 8, which will air in about a year from now.
David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Now, their fans were hoping that they would do spin-offs of surviving characters in Game of Thrones — or maybe, you know, go back and do prequels of existing and new characters and basically continue the franchise. But they’re not gonna do that. They instead have contracted with HBO to do a new show called Confederate. No date yet. I mean, they can’t even… I don’t think they can even get to it until after 2018, after season 8 of Game of Thrones, at least whenever that finishes production.
So it’s not imminent, and anything can change. How many of you have seen or heard of an Amazon Video series called The Man in the High Castle? You heard of that? The premise of that show is that the Germans won World War II and that America is under the control of the Nazis, and so is the U.K., and so is all of Europe. I tried to watch the show. I couldn’t get into it. Even though I knew the premise, I couldn’t get into it. There is a British TV show that… I don’t even remember the name of it. It tackled the same subject.
The Man in the High Castle Season 1 - Official Trailer: What If? | Amazon Video
Imagine, if you will, that Hitler won. It was a little bit better to watch, but I still didn’t think it made any sense with the premise. Well, this show is called Confederate, and you know what its premise is? That the South won the Civil War and that the United States has been a slave state ever since and is at this point in time. To this day, we’re a slave state. “The story,” HBO said, “follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone — freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall.”
Now, what do you think the impact of this show is gonna be? Why are they…? (interruption) “Stir up trouble?” That’s not even the half of it. Stir up trouble? How about causing trouble? Why in the world would anyone do this? This is why I have gone so deeply into trying to convince people who liberals are and trying to spot them from the first notice, the first moment that you can spot them and then understanding what you’re dealing with.
Why would somebody want to do this? What would be the point? And there is one, and it’s political, and you can’t say it’s not. I’ll tell you what I think is driving this, and it’s in front of us every day. Black Lives Matter epitomizes this. The premise is that the United States never ended slavery. It’s always been with us. It’s with us now. The cops are racist. This is a white Christian nation still wishes for slavery. The American left believes this country is rotten, that it is pond scum, that its founding was unjust, illegitimate, immoral, and all of that.
And they believe there hasn’t been any reformation; there hasn’t been any growth. We didn’t really end slavery because look at life today. Look at Ferguson, look at Baltimore, look at… They’ll cite all these examples. They run around… The left runs around and to this day believes that the United States still holds to many of the vestiges of slavery. And this program, this show is intended to demonstrate it by taking it to an extreme. What can the value of this possibly be? Well, let’s examine. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt. Let’s play with this.
Maybe they want to show how important the Civil War was in the effort of the United States to end slavery, how horrible it was. Maybe this is the way they tend to try to illustrate how horrible it was for those of you who weren’t alive during the era to actually have witnessed it or experienced it, and so it’s a testament. But somehow, I don’t think that’s the objective. Because when you have leftists behind this, the objective has to be… I mean, there’s nothing factual about Black Lives Matter, for example.
Black Lives Matter and all of these extremist racial civil rights — the extremist ones — special interest groups, are all about trying to make the case that nothing’s really changed. And yet the United States was among the first nations in the history of the world to actually end slavery. Five hundred thousand-plus Americans died in the process. This has been trending. This shouldn’t… Really, if you pay attention every day to the left… If you’ve been paying attention since Ferguson, take your pick of any event prior to it.
Go to Baltimore. Take a look at the Democrat Party’s open-endedly excusing all of this. The media is still the constant sympathy understanding, there is never any condemnation for looting or property rights damage or any of the sort. We’re all told we have to understand it. There’s lingering rage. There’s been increased talk of reparations, for example. So this is just the next step in the progression of committing to film the liberal vision of what the United States really is. It’s not just an entertainment objective here.
And it shouldn’t surprise anybody that HBO would get behind it and endorse it. But nothing good can come of this. Pshhh! I mean, this is… Let’s hope that between now and then there’s some things change in this. Is still a long way off. And after the green light it, then of course there’s casting and production. Things on HBO take years to actually get made and ready for air.
So we shall see. But it’s a slavery series. They’re openly admitting everything I just told you. Confederate. I’m told that there’s already massive attention being paid to this, pro and con, on Twitter. People are weighing in on it. But again, the premise is: Imagine the South had won the Civil War and that slavery was the order of the day nationwide.
Break Transcript
RUSH: I’m being inundated, “Hey, hey, this is not new. People have already done this.” No, they have not done this. There was a mockumentary. It was a fake doc. It was a parody — not sure how you would describe it. It was not a documentary. It’s being described as a mockumentary. Confederate states of America some years ago, it was picked up by IFC, which is a U.K. distribution outfit. The fact that you haven’t heard of it should tell you that this is not a factor.
But when HBO does something, folks, you’re gonna have to go to Wikipedia to find out about the Confederate states of America. I’m gonna tell you, if they do this, what ends up on screen is gonna be of secondary — Imagine the red carpet parties. Imagine the casting party, and then you’re gonna have the wrap party, then you’re gonna have the premier party. The whole cast is gonna be rotating guests on every television show in America as new experts on the current state of slavery in America.
The premise is gonna be, “What if the South won?” Well, the premise is gonna be, “Really, we haven’t gotten rid of slavery. Look at the way the world is in America.” That’s gonna be the point of this. You’re not gonna be able to escape it. You’re not gonna have to go to Wikipedia to find out about this. You’re not gonna be able to escape it if they do this. I know these people. Snerdley said, “Do you think they don’t understand this could really cause –” Have any of them really expressed shock, anger, disappointment that a madman picked up a gun and tried to assassinate a bunch of Republicans? Where is the stated outrage over that?
Imagine if the shooter had been someone aiming at Democrats, it would still be the lead headline all over the media and it would have been used to cause every Republican in Congress to resign. And maybe Trump. They would have never let up. But this guy, a lunatic Bernie Sanders supporter, grabs a gun, tries to assassinate a bunch of Republicans in Arlington, Virginia, at a softball practice, or baseball practice. And they report it on a couple of days, and then they do a couple stories on the guy, “Yeah, you know, it’s kind of understandable why this guy was outraged. It’s a sad thing he was driven over the edge,” and then it was dropped.
What do you mean, “Do they not understand what this is going to do?” They know full well what it’s gonna do. They’re not just doing this to have a little cocoon over here called entertainment. That’s not what the people that are gonna be involved in this are gonna do. I mean, to even conceive of this project, what must be going through your mind frequently?
Anyway, it’s not even in production yet, folks. It’s an idea and it’s titled and it’s got The Game of Thrones writers, producers, the show runners and so forth, but it’s still a year or two away from production, I think. I mean, look, I’m guessing about that. I’m guessing they can’t get this started ’til they finish Game of Thrones and that’s not gonna be over for a year. Maybe they could do it side by side. Who knows. Time will tell. It won’t be long.
If you don’t think politics influences everything done in movies and TV, you’re not looking close enough.
Yes because blacks weren’t the only Slaves.
Well, it is quite reasonable to suggest that debt slavery has replaced chattel slavery, so there’s that.
Rush has this wrong. The show will not portray America as a slave state, but as two states, one slave one free. The blacks are already upset.
The ancient Egyptian Pharaoes held the Jewish people as slaves. The ancient Greeks also had slaves, and the Romans held the first Christians as slaves.
Good for you. I refuse to subscribe to HBO also.
And then there was, shutter, Turtledove’s “Guns of the South,” where time-traveling South Africans equipped Lee’s army with AK-47’s.
“Yes because blacks weren’t the only Slaves.”
In the US they were.
Chinese were never slaves in the Western Hemisphere.
Some Irish were in Jamaica, around Cromwell’s time.
Anyway, here's another early counterfactual book that got lost in the shuffle:
They should include a look at the Jewish slave traders and the brutal half-black bastards of powerful families who owned the most horrific of the slave operations. Let’s get Spike Lee to make a movie about his (black) slave trading ancestors.
A comment so stupid you actually had to post it twice?
Later, the Irish were marched right off the boats and into uniform and sent to free the blacks, which rankled some.
It would depend on who you asked, the slave or the slave holder.
Other than being forced to live in squalor and poverty and eat sh!t by the side of the road. There must be some way of agreeing on something. The rich treated the poor poorly. The New Englanders had their slaves until they realized they could accomplish the same with indentures and company store credits. How much difference between a serf and a slave?
Those are fair philosophical questions.
The problem was the slaves were black; they stood out; if you were a free black, people would probably still have assumed you were a slave. The association lingers. They still stand out. Other ethnicities blend in over time. Blacks never do. They’re still black. Society/government have tried to resolve this, but apparently it can’t.
I apologize for the first stupid remark, I suppose I thought I was being clever.
The novelty and energy are gone. Not that everything is awful, but TV isn't as path-breaking or revolutionary as it once seemed to be.
It's hard to say how good or how bad this new show will be, but there's no reason to be defensive when it comes to Jefferson Davis and the fire eaters.
If your ancestors were ordinary Confederate soldiers and their wives or widows, they were in their own way victims of the secessionist elite and their plans.
I get the idea that Rush is not a fan of uchronia, or does know about it. Seemed a bit overboard.
On the other hand Rush has mentioned several times that we fought a civil war and one of the results was the ending of slavery. Rush seems to think this was really great. I think it is rather humiliating that slavery could not have been ended by some other means.
No problem. Don’t even think about it.
Another thing, by the time of the Civil War, even some people who were only 1/16 African and 15/16 European might still be slaves.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.