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The real reason the Republican Senate isn't repealing Obamacare.
The American Spectator ^ | 7-9-17

Posted on 07/10/2017 6:01:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: MichaelCorleone

I’m thinking we better vote for insurgents.

We can’t be cornered and held hostage to the “R” behind the name much longer. These guys are killing off campaigns by their primary opponents, with huge money and media.


21 posted on 07/10/2017 6:23:53 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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Step 1. Bring the PHS up to standard and deploy this uniformed service back into the major metropolitan areas (Blue).

Step 2. HHS revise the food choices for welfare recipients employing a nutritional based WIC program.

Step 3. Make free market health care actually a Free Market. Take taxes off of any Food, Clothes, and medical items. Open up the deductions to 100% For med and dental expenses.


22 posted on 07/10/2017 6:24:51 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

TWO RINOS McCain & Flake!


23 posted on 07/10/2017 6:26:16 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

If so many people rely on Obamacare, just leave Obamacare in place and create a new bill that addresses things like selling across state lines and tort reform. Let the insurance companies know that unless they build policies that are not tied to Obamacare but the free market, their Obamacare money is gone.

Next, you take the number of people who opted out of Obamacare and you reduce the money to fund the law proportionately. Now, the rats cannot say people lost their health insurance and those that did opt out can now buy better plans.


24 posted on 07/10/2017 6:27:58 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.” -)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m hoping that as the months go by, Trump will establish a track record of success and more voters will support his administration’s ideas. Result: more congressmen will have to accept their ideas if they want to be reelected.

Result: we will get a good reform package (actually I’d prefer a succession of smaller packages) that has bipartisan support.


25 posted on 07/10/2017 6:29:07 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Alberta's Child

I disagree. Obamacare is stiffing older voters because they are being forced to pay for benefits they don’t use — maternity, substance abuse, and mental health.

They are not benefitting. They are paying the highest premiums they have ever paid for the least care.


26 posted on 07/10/2017 6:30:38 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And spineless voters in Wisconsin and Kentucky will keep voting in Ryan and McConnell.


27 posted on 07/10/2017 6:30:49 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Poor Mr. Loopner Born without a Spine.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The insurance political game is ALL about the health care industry NOT having direct one-on-one customer-to-provider market demands on its costs - instead “insuring” someone is a “guaranteed” payer of what it - the health care industry - demands.


28 posted on 07/10/2017 6:30:56 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Alberta's Child

The real reason the GOP doesn’t repeal Obamacare is that the biggest beneficiaries of it are older people (Republican voters) and the ones screwed most by are younger people (Democrat voters). It’s really that simple.


How are old people benefiting from Obamacare? They could already get Medicare.
The only people benefiting are:

1)1 those in states that get expanded FREE medicaid and that’s not even Obamacare.

2)Those with expensive preexisting conditions that insurers are forced to cover now.

100% of people paying for health care that do not have a “preexisting conditions” are not benefiting from Obamacare at all.

The real reason the GOP doesn’t repeal Obamacare is their big donors love socialized medicine. It’s that simple. Everything else is kabuki.


29 posted on 07/10/2017 6:33:07 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Bump.


30 posted on 07/10/2017 6:35:06 AM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: browniexyz

Nobody paying for health care that doesn’t have “preexisting conditions” is benefiting from Obamacare. Nobody. The Obamacare policies are useless. In my case it’s $700 a month premium with an $8,000 deductable. Others have worse. A near useless “plan” that is catastrophic health care coverage in all but name.


31 posted on 07/10/2017 6:36:45 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: EQAndyBuzz

That sounds like a very workable plan to me. And one that ‘both sides’ (if there really are two sides) can agree on.

Hope someone with influence in this will take your advice.


32 posted on 07/10/2017 6:37:29 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Change it back.

Doesn't it take a 2/3 majority to change that type of rule? At the least, the opposition will demand a 60 vote majority to change it.

33 posted on 07/10/2017 6:41:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are...)
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There are differences between how this plays out in group plans vs. individual plans. It's individual plans where older people are most heavily impacted by ObamaCare, but they only account for about 15-20 million out of more than 300 million Americans.

Even the requirement for insurance plans to cover adult children of policy holders up to age 26 is really aimed at benefitting older Americans -- not the 25 year-old who rarely needs the coverage anyway. The whole purpose of this provision of ObamaCare is to offset insurance costs for older people by inflating the pools of insured people with more younger people who will have very few claims.

Older people are paying the highest premiums because -- as any actuary will tell you -- they represent the highest risk for major financial exposure to the insurance industry. The requirement for insurers to cover pre-existing conditions also benefits mainly older people. What you are seeing with these escalating premiums and ridiculous deductibles is the natural response of the insurance industry to these legal requirements that would inevitably bankrupt any industry.

34 posted on 07/10/2017 6:41:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They are in the pockets of HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES. Follow the $$$$$$$$$.


35 posted on 07/10/2017 6:43:48 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: lodi90

It’s the 50-65 age group that is the most challenging to deal with in the U.S. (both now and before ObamaCare). These are people who are often targeted for layoffs when companies are downsizing, and aren’t yet old enough to qualify for Medicare.


36 posted on 07/10/2017 6:44:58 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: MichaelCorleone

(“Now how about going out and voting for some real people to help Our President)

What part of that comment didn’t you understand??? SMH!!!


37 posted on 07/10/2017 6:46:18 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: lodi90
The real reason the GOP doesn’t repeal Obamacare is their big donors love socialized medicine.

I have news for you. Most Americans -- even many people right here on FreeRepublic -- love socialized medicine. They may not be willing to admit it, and maybe they even truly believe that they hate socialized medicine. But a common thing in every single discussion I have had on this subject -- and in every political discussion I've read or seen on it -- is that most Americans want a health care system that has the following three characteristics:

1. It covers everyone.

2. It covers everything.

3. It doesn't cost them much money.

In other words, what most Americans want is something that doesn't exist ... which means it can only be implemented through the force of a government that has: (1) the authority to print money indefinitely, and (2) the power to kill its citizens when they need to be stripped of their delusions about what they want and what they're willing to pay for.

That is socialized medicine by definition.

38 posted on 07/10/2017 6:50:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

No, no, no. It takes only a SIMPLE MAJORITY to change the Senate rule. There just is NO WILL amongst the Senators of either party.


39 posted on 07/10/2017 6:54:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Alberta's Child

It’s the 50-65 age group that is the most challenging to deal with in the U.S. (both now and before ObamaCare). These are people who are often targeted for layoffs when companies are downsizing, and aren’t yet old enough to qualify for Medicare.


Then they are getting garbage Obamacare plans for outrageous premiums. Much worse than what was previously available. I can see you’ve never shopped for one.


40 posted on 07/10/2017 6:55:29 AM PDT by lodi90
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