Posted on 07/05/2017 4:51:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Ralph Peters: 'Messy, Bloody' Military Action Probably Required in North Korea
Retired Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters said that dealing with North Korea's expanding nuclear missile program will probably require "messy, bloody" military action by the United States.
Peters called the idea a "grand delusion" that China would choose the good will of the U.S. over what it sees as a very valuable alliance with North Korea.
"We will never see Beijing remove that regime or even bully it to the point where it threatens to destabilize the regime. Period," the retired officer said.
North Korea launched an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) missile deep into Japanese waters Tuesday, sparking international alarm.
Peters said the U.S. must look at what the Chinese government actually does rather than what it says or commits to doing. China has never come down hard on North Korea, he added.
Peters emphasized that the United States cannot allow North Korea to own an ICBM with a nuclear warhead.
President Trump tweeted this morning that he no longer expects China to help keep North Korea in check.
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Every new administration gets tested EARLY for it’s mettle. Think JFK(Castro), Bush(911), and those of varying degrees. Trump not only knows it but is acting like he welcomes the test. The negotiating involved beforehand suggests there’s a way out but I’m sure our enemies don’t want to find out just how big and powerful we are. They DO know but there’s a new sheriff in town.
Let the Japanese start spinning up nukes. We can buy the surplus and maybe learn a thing or two.
I don’t put much stock in what Ralph Peters says. He’s a frothing-at-the-mouth war monger. Don’t know why FNC gives him a platform to spread his paranoia and gloom and doom.
If we take out the Norks it will take 20 minutes. Let the South clean up afterwards. Next, move the armada towards Iran. Bring half of the 28k troops from S. Korea along with them. Call for a violent overthrow with the threat we will leave and they will have to wait.
“They might be willing to go along with leadership change that brings a different, less crazy strongman into power.”
That parallels my thinking. China could install a stable dictatorship of insular, hardline military oligarchs, who would abstain from developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems, and generally tone it down with the South. If North Korea’s economy improved, it would only help their main trading partner, China. The US would tend to lose interest and justification for its presence; South Korea would forget why it ever wanted us there. Some might argue that China actually WANTS to keep us in Korea. `
Yep. Trump tried.
Time for something else.
May it be swift and decisive.
Bloody?
I was thinking more like smoldering.
Easy for us, crispy for them.
(send no troops)
One huge concern the Chinese have is that they don't want hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing a collapsing DPRK.
But now China is perhaps the ROK's largest trading partner. And while Comrade Kim's shenanigans can provide a distraction of U.S. attention from Chinese perfidy in the East and South China seas, they also provide a pretext for South Korea and Japan to seek offensive, perhaps nuclear, weapons options of their own--as well as anti-ballistic missile systems that may get hooked up with U.S. systems.
For my money, the Chinese should offer a deal: They take out Kim and let Korea reunify--at the cost of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Korea.
I tend to think that the Chinese would like to assassinate Kim Jong Un and install a stooge after a coup (a la the Soviets in Afghanistan in 1979). The problem is: Who can they recruit and how does the Korean People's Army react?
Exactly. If Trump goes to war, and it is as messy as everyone expects, he would be roundly criticized for NOT addressing China for it’s cooperation first. Plus, he needs the measure of Xi. This could be another war in which the US does the fighting only to have a bystander reap the laurels, like Iran did after Saddam.
He writes some excellent books though.
It thinks that Trumps alternatives are limited and that the only real alternative is military action. Military action will put Korea and Japan at risk though so if he pursues military action the South Koreans and Japanese will split with the U.S. and that will reduce U.S. influence in the area which is their real goal.
If SK or Japan get a hang nail, the US has to come with the clippers.
The Chinese will whisper to Seoul that they will keep NK reined in if SK gets rid of those pesky Americans. Beijing’s end game is to push the US out of the Western Pacific. First SK then Japan will see reason, and kowtow to Beijing. We need to make it clear to Seoul that if they want to point NK at us to spare themselves, then we of course will feel free to defend our own interests no matter what happens to SK.
I think your reasoning is sound.
The collateral damage will be horrendous, and there seems to be no way to avert it.
Were I a South Korean citizen, I would be bugging out for some point as close to Pusan as I could get, darned sure far from Seoul.
Oh yeah, now I remember, the whiny sissy-boy who endorsed Hillary.
Go suck your rattle Ralphy, a real man named Trump will keep you safe.
If people want this thing to be solved without direct military intervention by U.S. or trade war, this is one way to do it as well as arming Taiwan.
There are options out there, but D.C. does not like the price they may have to pay for such options, even for bloodless options.
There are no longer cheap inexpensive options.
Ralph Peters supported Hillary and said he would vote for her over Trump. Who gives a crap about his opinion? He is an idiot.
So you don’t have a problem with this psychopath having a fleet of ICBMs and hydrogen bombs?
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