Ralph Peters: 'Messy, Bloody' Military Action Probably Required in North Korea
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Posted on 07/05/2017 4:51:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Ralph Peters: 'Messy, Bloody' Military Action Probably Required in North Korea
Retired Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters said that dealing with North Korea's expanding nuclear missile program will probably require "messy, bloody" military action by the United States.
Peters called the idea a "grand delusion" that China would choose the good will of the U.S. over what it sees as a very valuable alliance with North Korea.
"We will never see Beijing remove that regime or even bully it to the point where it threatens to destabilize the regime. Period," the retired officer said.
North Korea launched an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) missile deep into Japanese waters Tuesday, sparking international alarm.
Peters said the U.S. must look at what the Chinese government actually does rather than what it says or commits to doing. China has never come down hard on North Korea, he added.
Peters emphasized that the United States cannot allow North Korea to own an ICBM with a nuclear warhead.
President Trump tweeted this morning that he no longer expects China to help keep North Korea in check.
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Trade between China and North Korea grew almost 40% in the first quarter. So much for China working with us - but we had to give it a try!
4:21 AM - 5 Jul 2017
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Having said that, for the sake of history he HAD to give the Chinese one try at least, and also had he not given a try first, you would hear holy hell from CNN and NYT and WaPo for years on end that he shot from the hip.
So now that it is done and over with, Trump learned his lesson, lets go on to the next matter of business.
I’m not exactly sure what benefit China gets from NK being a nuclear armed psychopath that antagonizes the world’s still most powerful country with the world’s most powerful Navy.
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The United States made some of the worst Trade Deals in world history.Why should we continue these deals with countries that do not help us?
4:14 AM - 5 Jul 2017
It’s time to embargo China until. They either disarm North Korea or we wreak their economy.
Because that way the Norks have to take all the heat for being dangerous homicidal maniacs but in reality it allows China to appear 1st world and civilized, when they’re really not.
As in chess, the threat is often psychologically more powerful/influential than the actual reality of the situation.
Very dangerous game of chicken.
With Kim thumbing his nose at us by lobbing ever more capable missiles near the shores of our ally Japan, missiles that if launched on a normal trajectory could now reach U.S. territory, and China dragging its feet, we have no option other than the military one. I know, there's talk of a possible naval blockade of some type, but as that in itself is an act or war and likely to provoke a hostile response, we might as well skip that step and go straight to direct military action.
Personally, I'm not concerned about what the North might do to Seoul in retaliation as they have decided to elect a socialist, refuse our THAAD defensive missile batteries, and instead seem to want to try the "head in the sand approach." I also think that if we apply WWII style "total war" to this problem, using our vastly superior technology, this thing would be wrapped up but for the inevitable diplomatic fallout in a very short timeframe. I just firmly believe that if our military were unleashed unlike it has been allowed because of PC for decades now, North Korea would be decimated before it even knew what was happening.
Let the countries around fat boy take him out. Why does it always have to be the US? If it does boil down to us, then nuke him and be done with it.
China and North Korea have a military mutual aid treaty (Sino-North Korean Mutual Aid and Cooperation Friendship Treaty) which was signed in 1961 and renewed over the last several decades. It runs until 2021.
China may not be interested in regime change if it results in a democratically elected government that supports reunification with the south. They might be willing to go along with leadership change that brings a different, less crazy strongman into power.
When Asians speak with someone with real Authority, they will invariably be very respectful.
Invariably.
Trump is in a position of real responsibility. He is independently wealthy, and also President. As such he has real authority. Just as Xi also has real authority.
What you had earlier this year, was that both men lived up to their positions fully. A “good relationship” was fully observed.
However, Trump may have interpreted that too much, like Xi is an American. He is not an American. He is the leader of a large, powerful nation with many goals which run 100% opposed to America’s.
Completely. And Trump will not usually hear from Xi when they disagree on things. Other countries do not share Americans’ tendency for honesty. China has a very long history of people speaking carefully. Xi is obviously good at that, because he has been very successful there.
He will act upon his goals, even while agreeing publicly with Trump’s.
Donald you are doing a great job. I am very happy to have voted for you, and I support you greatly.
But don’t mistake China for America.
It is a very large, very powerful communist nation, which is completely for CHINA.
100%.
You can be friends sometimes with their leader, but they are not America.
Never have been. Never will be.
If they merely threatened to do it, this problem would not have happened because China took care of it for their own interest.
Ralph Peters: 'Messy, Bloody' Military Action Probably Required in North Korea
Article, #3, #11, #13, #15.
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As long as the rest of the world sees china and north korea as two separate nations, china gets everything.
MacArthur was 100% right and Truman wrong about Korea
There is at least one or two more cards to play. The NORK’s have done a lot of business with Iran, the number one state sponsor of terrorism and various mischief on the world stage. I think we should establish a naval blockade to narrow down the NORK’s suppliers to land transported goods to China and Russia and expose these two countries as being the main suppliers of a rogue regime and let them try to explain why they are assisting potential nuclear war escalation. Another play would be to trade our opposition to Chinese dominance in the South China Sea for decisive Chinese pressure on N. Korea.
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