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1 posted on 06/19/2017 6:42:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

They were TEXTING and Driving????


2 posted on 06/19/2017 6:45:45 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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I read something along the same lines yesterday but I put it off as a “conspiracy theory”. Maybe there is more to it.


3 posted on 06/19/2017 6:49:17 AM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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Nearly impossible to have an accidental collision, nearly impossible to plan a collision. Which impossibility is it?


4 posted on 06/19/2017 6:50:31 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Morning in America Again, again.)
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Given the obvious damage (in the photos) to the DESTROYER from a collision with a cargo ship, I am very curious about just what was the speed of the cargo ship at the time. My second question would be what was the crew of the destroyer doing when the cargo ship collided with it. Was no one on watch?


5 posted on 06/19/2017 6:51:14 AM PDT by Wuli
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Any missing armaments? Any missing high tec - electronics?


6 posted on 06/19/2017 6:52:17 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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It’s hard to figure how this could happen with radar on both ships screaming and alarming about a collision.


7 posted on 06/19/2017 6:52:43 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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Wonder if there are surveillance cameras on the bridge and if the public will ever learn just what the officer and the crew on duty were doing? It would appear that their attention was elsewhere.


8 posted on 06/19/2017 6:52:53 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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Were both ships rendezvousing for a surreptitious cargo transfer? The damage doesn’t seem consistent with a medium or high speed impact.


11 posted on 06/19/2017 6:57:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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That collision was as close to the citadel as you can get without hitting the citadel dead on.

My first thought was something fishy about the story, and there still is. However I question the proficiency of the Ships crew if got even permitting the ship to be placed in a position where it could be rammed.

Destroyer hit in the middle from the cargo ship bow, that means the cargo ship turned into the destroyer path. The Destroyer either sped up, slowed down or simply didn’t know it was happening.

Be interesting to know when the collision alarms were sounded.

Feel sorry for the crew member that died.

I wonder if the cargo ships crew were immediately detained and placed under guard by the Navy boarding party. If there was one. That could account for the hour delay.


12 posted on 06/19/2017 6:58:05 AM PDT by Fhios
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maybe they were busy trying to not sink.


13 posted on 06/19/2017 6:58:58 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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JFK’s middle name was Fitzgerald. So, there is a precedent for a floating Ferrari to be surprised and run over by a floating steam roller.


15 posted on 06/19/2017 6:59:32 AM PDT by fso301
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Is the cargo ship’s captain a muslim by chance?


16 posted on 06/19/2017 7:00:11 AM PDT by subterfuge (Build the damn wall...)
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Sounds like both navy and merchant were asleep.


18 posted on 06/19/2017 7:01:36 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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Before going any further I would like to state that I have absolutely no experience as to what goes on, on a navy ship etc. In other words I am totally ignorant in regards to procedures. But what did crossed my mind was, doesn’t have a naval vessel, especially a destroyer several people in charge who are supposed to take care of surveillance as to what goes on around or may be approaching such a ship, as it could be very well be friend or foe. Not to mention what happened to the radar unit, was it down for service. Anyone in charge for security on such a vessel, certainly would be looking for a different job and that would be the least.


20 posted on 06/19/2017 7:01:41 AM PDT by saintgermaine (The Time Traveler)
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I don’t know anything about ships and the navigation of vessels this size, so maybe someone here who is knowledgeable on this subject can educate me. I don’t understand how a collision like this could occur. It happened in the middle of the night, however, both ships must have had enough lights to enable a visual sighting while the two were still some distance apart. I realize that ships of this size can’t turn on a dime, but even if there was no visual sighting, both had to be equipped with navigation and detection technology that would provide a warning to the crews in enough time to take evasive action. Maybe I’m missing something obvious here, but I just don’t see how this could happen.


21 posted on 06/19/2017 7:03:20 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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Info showing timing, direction, etc. if accurate who knows.


24 posted on 06/19/2017 7:07:02 AM PDT by deport
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They must have not been watching the radar on both vessels. Hard for radar to miss something that big and made of metal.
Whoever had the con should never be trusted again and busted in rank/pay-grade.


26 posted on 06/19/2017 7:10:27 AM PDT by capt. norm (Two can live as cheaply as one...but for only half as long)
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"Japan's coast guard is investigating why it took nearly an hour for a deadly collision between a U.S. Navy destroyer and a container ship to be reported. "

Could be someone was dumping stuff off?

29 posted on 06/19/2017 7:13:51 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (We have to stop saying "How stupid can you get". Too many people are seeing it as a challenge.)
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"Marine traffic records suggest the ACX Crystal made a sudden U-turn roughly 25 minutes before the collision with the USS Fitzgerald. It is not clear why it changed course."

Are U-TURNS par for course for cargo vessels on that Tokyo bay??

USS Fitzgerald crash: Seven navy crew missing off Japan

30 posted on 06/19/2017 7:15:41 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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I can’t believe that with advanced radar and control systems the navy ship could not have seen the collision coming and commenced evasive tactics. Certainly the monster container ship would have appeared on radar. Strange events.


34 posted on 06/19/2017 7:20:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcherhttp://www.stone)
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