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Why Do We Share A “Special Relationship” with Great Britain?
Townhall.com ^ | June 17, 2017 | Jon Schweppe

Posted on 06/17/2017 5:21:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

I don’t. I have no interest in a country that insists on being ruled by someone who has inherited the power from parents. Sorry, but the monarchy is outdated and needs to be eliminated. Furthermore, the UK is rushing headlong into sharia-tainted democracy followed by full sharia. Not special to me.


21 posted on 06/17/2017 6:41:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: central_va
"Hitler thought the USA and GB were not natural allies."

There are more immigrants in the USA from Germany than there are immigrants from all the UK.
(I was surprised to learn that recently)

22 posted on 06/17/2017 6:53:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t used to be. The USA and England were on BAD terms from 1776 till about the 1880s.
England supported Indian uprisings, tried to form an alliance between themselves, Canada, TEXAS and Mexico against the USA over the Oregon Territories dispute which drove Texas to become a state.

Supported the SOUTH in the Civil War by building warships, blockade runners and sending guns to the South.

I have read that it was BUFFALO BILL’S WILD WEST SHOW and Annie Oakley who broke the ice leading to better relations with England.


23 posted on 06/17/2017 6:55:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I should add that by WWI, things were really different. I remember seeing a Political cartoon of Uncle Sam and John Bull shaking hands across the Atlantic. The caption was...”WE Anglo Saxon nations have to stick together!”


24 posted on 06/17/2017 6:57:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MNnice
We speak the same language. Period.

I certainly believe that is the biggest reason. It may not be the only reason, but I think it is the biggest.

25 posted on 06/17/2017 7:01:49 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

True. And oddly enough, we might have lost the American Revolution if not for help and support from the French. It’s a good thing the French don’t remember that either!


26 posted on 06/17/2017 7:05:04 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Kaslin
Except this isn't grandpa's Britain anymore.

The Brits would probably lock Winston Churchill up for Hate Speech today.

But he shows us that not much has changed in the muslim world in 118 years.

Churchill’s Brutal Takedown of Islam

The following is quoted from Churchill’s unabridged "River War and Reconquest of the Soudan" (1899).

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!

Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries.

Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property—either as a child, a wife, or a concubine — must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men."

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/winston-churchills-brutal-takedown-of-islam-means-more-today-than-ever


27 posted on 06/17/2017 7:14:21 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best Long Term Prepper Tactic: Beat The Muslim Demographic Tsnami - Have Big Families)
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To: Kaslin
You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.

--Winston Churchill

28 posted on 06/17/2017 7:22:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Three telling events about the British mentality towards the US. In WWI we were neutral most of the war. We hear endless talk of the German submarines threatening American shipping if they carried war material to Britain. But at the very same moment, if an American cargo ship wanted to carry cargo to a German port, the Royal navy let us know it would be sunk. They were enforcing a blockade against a neutral country. That is an act of war. This exact reason is why we never blockaded north Vietnam.

Two, when we were brought into WWI by Wilsonian era progressives, our Army arrived in Europe. The Brits fully intended to have American soldiers under British command, using them as replacements, and letting the substandard Brit Generals feed them into their meatgrinder attacks.

Three, in the postwar negotiations for the Naval treaty, the Brits demanded twice as many battleships as the USA would get. They said it was because they had “responsibilities” in the atlantic and pacific. In reality, they still believed they might need to defeat the US navy in some future conflict.

The Brits love the “special relationship” bullcrap. But they see it as they get an outsize voice and we provide the muscle and money.

And now today, within a decade or two they elect a moslem PC and government. And they government will be in charge of 4 trident nuclear submarines. We really should be preparing for the UK to be a hostile Islamic nuclear power.


29 posted on 06/17/2017 7:34:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: This I Wonder32460

Incorrect, it was indeed a revolution. Revolution does not mean completely destroy society and rebuild it. Revolution according to the dictionary:

“a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system.
synonyms: rebellion, revolt, insurrection, mutiny, uprising, riot, rioting”

It was to overthrow British rule and establish a new government.


30 posted on 06/17/2017 7:41:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“I remember seeing a Political cartoon of Uncle Sam and John Bull shaking hands across the Atlantic. The caption was...”WE Anglo Saxon nations have to stick together!””

A propaganda cartoon. They also had cartoons of Germans catching Belgian babies on bayonets.

Little known fact, in WWI the war to make the world safe for democracy, the German soldier could vote. The overwhelming majority of British soldiers could not. They get the right to vote AFTER the war.


31 posted on 06/17/2017 7:45:27 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Kaslin

At the time Finland was hailed because it paid its share of WWI war reparations.


32 posted on 06/17/2017 8:16:49 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (national)
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To: Kaslin

I think Churchill must have already recognized that GBs day as the dominant power was over. What needed to be done was to stop the Nazis and salvage what they could of the empire with the help of what was clearly becoming a new dominant power yet not an existential threat. Not to take away from Churchill, who was the greatest leader of his time, but I don’t believe he sacrificed GB’s dominance willingly out of some great moral calculus.


33 posted on 06/17/2017 8:33:28 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God help us)
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To: DesertRhino

I had no idea about differences in soldier’s voting.

Learn something new everyday here.


34 posted on 06/17/2017 8:36:48 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Kaslin

Fights within a family are usually the worst. It takes time to get over them, especially when one of the parties sees itself as parent over child, but cousins are cousins and outsiders beware.


35 posted on 06/17/2017 8:42:54 AM PDT by katana
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To: Disestablishmentarian

The British were not involved in the Civil War and they did not aid the Confederacy despite their desire to trade for cotton.The British Parliament declared neutrality and 40,000 Canadians fought for the blue and the grey, mainly for the North.


36 posted on 06/17/2017 8:53:08 AM PDT by albertabound
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I wish I could remember where, but awhile back I read an article that said that after WW I the British Admiralty began to make serious contingency plans against...the United States Navy.

Germany was finished (or so they thought), Japan was too weak (or so they thought), and France was a firm ally. So who was left to threaten the British Empire? The United States.


37 posted on 06/17/2017 8:58:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: mewzilla

and this...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/secret-history-the-u-s-supported-and-inspired-the-nazis/5439236


38 posted on 06/17/2017 9:06:20 AM PDT by albertabound
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To: DesertRhino

A neutral ship carrying war material is commiting an act of war. Britain and the US both knew this at the time, although the US forgot it later in the century.


39 posted on 06/17/2017 9:18:00 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Kaslin

Going to see the “Churchill” movie today. Trailer looks good.


40 posted on 06/17/2017 9:33:15 AM PDT by Persevero (Love you guys)
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