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MSM is all About Trump Obstruction Investigation this Morning.... Except for FOX (self)
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Posted on 06/15/2017 3:36:38 AM PDT by DOC44

I flipped around this morning expecting to see a call for unity and a reduction of talk advocating violence to Trump and republicans. But everybody CNN, MSNBC and the rest except for FOX are talking about Muller and the criminal investigation of Trump. They are continuing to push the separation of political groups and fueling violence. At what point can these Hollywood personalities and MSM which opening support violence on republicans and Trump and his family be sued.... especially when violence occurs like the riots and the assassination attempts and threats?


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To: Rapscallion

IF all conservatives STOP their CABLE NEWS.

IT would end.

I stopped my cable news in 2011.

Come on everyone! Cancel your cable news. CUT THE CORD.


61 posted on 06/15/2017 5:18:01 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Trump's victory makes me smile 24/7)
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To: DOC44
At what point can these Hollywood personalities and MSM which opening support violence on republicans and Trump and his family be sued.... especially when violence occurs like the riots and the assassination attempts and threats?
IMHO the problem has been SCOTUS. And still is SCOTUS.

The problem also is to identify the defendant, and the plaintiff. And to argue the case on the correct grounds.

First of all, the defendant. We know that “the MSM” is anti-Republican propaganda. But how do you sue “the MSM”? Legally there is no such entity. But actually, there is - and it does have a name. It is the Associated Press and its individual members, joint and several liability. What is the tort? IMHO it is violation of The Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890.

The thing to know about Sherman is that it is short - a one-pager. Which gives a prosecution or a civil complaint for triple damages freedom to argue its own definition of what a Trust is.

People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations
Is as good a definition as any - and the AP “wire” is nothing but a continual virtual meeting of all major journalism outlets. The problem is that the plaintiff, in a civil suit, would be society. And that is a nebulous concept legally IMHO (IANAL). And the tort is that the AP - all wire services, actually - homogenize journalism into an entity which systematically practices on the gullibility of the public:
“The republican principle demands that the deliberate sense of the community should govern the conduct of those to whom they intrust the management of their affairs; but it does not require an unqualified complaisance to every sudden breeze of passion or to every transient impulse which the people may receive from the arts of men, who flatter their prejudices to betray their interests.” ― Alexander Hamilton
And again,
The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing.

The man whom we believe is necessarily, in the things concerning which we believe him, our leader and director, and we look up to him with a certain degree of esteem and respect. But as from admiring other people we come to wish to be admired ourselves; so from being led and directed by other people we learn to wish to become ourselves leaders and directors . . .

The desire of being believed, the desire of persuading, of leading and directing other people, seems to be one of the strongest of all our natural desires. - Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments (1759)

Journalism is any any case inherently “liberal” for commercial reasons. Journalism is negative because “If it bleeds, it leads” is a good way to attract attention to your newspaper. But journalism, knowing that it is negative, claims - again, in order to gain readership - to be objective. But “claiming that negativity is objectivity” is a fine definition of cynicism. Journalism is cynical about society, and - concomitantly - naive about government.

SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one . . . - Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

“Liberals” - emphatically including Establishment journalism - conflate “society” with “government” precisely to prevent people from recognizing that although skepticism about society is justifiable, and the foundation for the very existence of government, cynicism about society produces unnecessary government - that is, unnecessary evil. Evil up to, and including, tyranny.

62 posted on 06/15/2017 5:18:38 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which ‘liberalism’ coheres is that NOTHING ACTUALLY MATTERS except PR.)
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To: Travis McGee

The whole camping trip will end like Occupy Wall Street did. It will take some time for the dust to settle but there will be a 2nd Trump term, and it will attributable to what they’re doing to him now.


63 posted on 06/15/2017 5:22:40 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Democrat_media

I agree. You can bet there is good evidence now of a conspiracy to commit sedition or treason. If Sessions won’t investigate there are 90+ other US District Attorneys who could do the job at Trump’s direction. The third in line is Rachel Brand at the DOJ, but she strikes me as a squish who doesn’t have the killer instincts to do the job.


64 posted on 06/15/2017 5:28:02 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kearnyirish2

Are you kidding me? The assassination is not the top story?


65 posted on 06/15/2017 5:28:06 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democratt)
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To: Lazamataz

To be on the safe side, a Broadway play could depict it using fake guns, ammo, blood and screams...I would enjoy a performance like that. Based on what we know is out there now, I’d say it has real potential!


66 posted on 06/15/2017 5:28:36 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: ncalburt

What phony leak are you referring to? The post was a Trump tweet.


67 posted on 06/15/2017 5:37:13 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: TTFlyer

There should be some new attack dogs brought into this administration.

The opposition has vulnerabilities which need to be exposed. Put them on defense and this battle will change.


68 posted on 06/15/2017 5:44:37 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: IamConservative

this, maybe?

“Circa reported that in a closed session following Comey’s testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee last Thursday, the fired FBI director told lawmakers he confronted Lynch over a sensitive document reportedly suggesting she had agreed to stop any Clinton prosecution.

During the closed-door conversation, Comey reportedly told lawmakers Lynch looked at the document and then looked up with a “steely silence” — and directed Comey to leave her office...”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/14/comey-reportedly-confronted-lynch-over-clinton-email-probe-involvement.html

Feinstein sent a letter, followed by Grassley sending a letter to Feinstein Wednesday (same day of Mueller meeting I think), assuring her that “the committee will pursue investigations into any efforts to influence FBI investigations. “


69 posted on 06/15/2017 6:04:05 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: DOC44
I thought Mueller was hired to look into a Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. He can branch out into other things like "obstruction"? Anything the Dems want him to do? Where's the limit?

Sessions should put out a warning that if Mueller does expand out, he's violated his mandate and could be fired.

70 posted on 06/15/2017 6:08:46 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Travis McGee

The DC swamp gets too hot in July and August for the swamp critters to stick around. Their Federale jobs allow lots of non-verified vacation time.
Best month for Trump to dial back Muller and his prosecutors (nuke them and get rid of these tar baby robots) is August when the heat really sinks in and everyone bails out the DC swamp.

To everything there is a season and August is only 45 days away.


71 posted on 06/15/2017 7:00:24 AM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: gattaca

They are incapable of repenting. I literally believe that they have committed the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.


72 posted on 06/15/2017 10:26:33 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: MNDude

It absolutely wasn’t - and if you went to their websites they had it on the side while the “Trump obstruction” story was front and center.


73 posted on 06/15/2017 5:38:28 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: VTenigma

Absolutely; if each fake news story convinces .5% of people, then eventually they’ll get a majority.


74 posted on 06/15/2017 5:39:30 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: TTFlyer
Paul Ryan, Lindsey graham, Mitch McConnell, John McCain all need to call out the media on this.

Never happen.


Yep, will never happen.
75 posted on 06/15/2017 8:03:48 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Is it not too late to appoint a special counsel to investigate Hillary's crimes?z)
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To: Lazamataz
Please use restraint in what you advocate. Sounds like you advocate violence.
76 posted on 06/16/2017 6:57:47 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Democrats are suffering Soros psychosis.)
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To: Rapscallion

Oh wait! Let’s see: Leftists can advocate for violence all they want, and when a leftist starts shooting Republican congressmen, all the media can do is call for gun bans, and then advocate for more violence.

No. I shall not retract.


77 posted on 06/16/2017 9:20:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: exit82
-- Mueller needs to be asked directly if he gave immunity to ANYONE. --

Mueller is bound by DoJ regulations and procedures. There is a substantial body of material there on the subject of witness immunity.

U.S. Attorneys' Manual >> Title 9: Criminal >> 9-23.000 - Witness Immunity

78 posted on 06/16/2017 9:29:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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