This is like cash for clunker but A/C style. I have a R-22 unit that is perfectly fine but it leaks about a pound of Freon every three years. So one day I will be forced to replace it when it is perfectly fine or perhaps(If I am lucky) to pay some exorbitant price for Freon. It will coat me over $5,000 when $10.00 of Freon would have fixed the issue.
... not to mention some of the replacement refrigerants are more toxic than the old refrigerants.
It takes government regulation to so thoroughly screw things up.
I read an article a few years ago that claimed the environmental impact of R-22 was very exaggerated because those who calculated it’s effects had a math error in their formula.
My AC works fine using MO-99 replacement for R-22.
FMR-22DH!
This is a another casualty of the environmental lunatics. Furthermore, I understand that the replacement gas is a less efficient coolant, which means any energy savings will have to come from equipment advances. It also means that existing equipment will likely not be modifiable to use the new gas so you will need a whole new system. R-22 is already astronomically priced.
It is a little bit of a colder gas and it puts less stress on the compressors.
Buy 20 pounds of it now and you will be good.
I read that R22 is the second most smuggled item from Mexico into the US. I think it is still being produced there. Not sure.
We just got a quote,to replace,our 33 year old Lennox central AC. We don’t run it much here in the SF Bay Area...maybe 15 to 20 days per year.
The HVAC company says the lower delta-T over the coil requires higher airflow for the same cooling load and we need to replace our return ducts in the crawl space as well as enlarge the two return air registers.
Anybody else heard this? We have some big problems replacing the return ducts.
A couple of months ago I had my old R22 outdoor AC unit replaced with a new R422 unit. The original R22 indoor coil didn’t need to be replaced either. However, the whole system needed to be purged of R22 (and whatever other fluids are in there) before hooking up the new R422 unit.
So, that said, R422 is compatible with R22 systems...
The last time I had to get some R22 (back in 2014) it was $108 for a pound. I don’t think I want to know how much it is now.
Just another money making scam to use useless environmental whiners as a pawn make millions.
I saw a guy cut the refrigerant line and dump about 200 pounds of R22 to remove an air conditioning system.
I think and entire generation is lost to the knowledge of attic fans for those in single, detached homes.
They’re a great way to cut back on wear and tear on your AC unit(s).
Although I'm not sure I think my unit might be 30+ years old.I've always assumed that it's not as energy efficient as more recent units but I've been willing to live with that.
But with this R22 business do any of you experts out there know if this means that I'll be forced to replace the unit?
Seems like there might be different reasons for doing this & it all probably relates to some made-up governmental malarkey that serves to fill someone’s pocket with money. I remember back when automotive A/C units all used R-12 which was probably the best refrigerant we had. When they phased it out,the price of it went much higher,but also the price of the replacement R-134. I have to believe there is something else at play here beside just the need to have safer refrigerants & government makes the rules.....
I’ve got a system I need to get at and replace. Honestly, R-22 systems are probably due and there’s probably an energy payback.
I ran into the lack of repair companies that use R-22 last year. I had bought an A/C unit 18000btu about 4 yrs ago, and it had an extended warranty purchase until 2018.
The unit was blowing hot air, and I was selling the home, so naturally the sale became contingent on getting it serviced or replaced. I finally found someone to service, and after a fight with Frigidaire....it did happen.
So I doubt you could get someone to service R-22 units in next year. An a/c unit that uses R-22 here.... took time to find someone, as Frigidaire approved for the area service groups didn’t carry it....and must be a trained tech in that type for a warranty.
Best wishes...
Ahh, the good ‘ol days of flushing out the reefer pipes (R-12 system) with 15 or 20 gallons of R-11 pushed thru by 100 or so pounds of liquid R-12 to clean all the burnt compressor crap out of the system so you could get the freezer back online before the Captains ice cream melted.
I slaughtered my some Ozone molecules that day !!
I still have a few cans of it.
it’s a scam.
1) DuPont’s patent’s are expiring, so they lobbied to outlaw their own product - having a much more expensive replacement in the wings.
2) CFCs are heavier than air - so how do they get in the upper atmosphere? Supposedly by breaking down, and the chlorine gas goes up, because it’s lighter than air.
3) So, if chlorine gas is the problem, what its he massive source of chlorine we make (think about this) - CFCs are literally the flea on a the hair of the tail on the dog.
Folks, just like “Global Warming” - this whole “ozone hole” is nothing but a Hoax.
BTW, if we did not have holes in the ozone at both poles, LIFE ON THE EARTH WOULD CEASE TO EXIST.
Why? Here’s a question for you to answer that will lead you to why an ozone hole is needed at the poles.
Q: In the winter, the wind blows cold from the poles down over the face of the earth (southward in every direction). How does the wind blow southward from one spot on the earth? Where does the cold wind come from? If you can’t figure this out, you might be a democrat.