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Top CEOs Are In a Last Ditch Bid to Persuade Trump to Stick with the Paris Climate Deal
fortune ^ | 5/31/2017 | kevin lui

Posted on 06/01/2017 8:16:56 AM PDT by RummyChick

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To: Truth29

All of this crap is Trumps fault for dragging this out. If he had just pulled us ouf in January as expected the bastards would not have had 6 months to mobilize all of this pressure. I am more than a little worried at this point.


21 posted on 06/01/2017 8:25:36 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: RummyChick

Global elite to the rescue!


22 posted on 06/01/2017 8:25:42 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: sheehan

I think Trump will have congress vote on it. I wish he would just kill it outright.


23 posted on 06/01/2017 8:26:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RummyChick

It Trump caves on this one, I will cease to care if the Deep State takes him down.

It will prove our globalist left is in ultimate control anyway, so may was well let the system run to its obvious conclusion.


24 posted on 06/01/2017 8:27:04 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: RummyChick

Same question you ask on every policy matter - Is this policy a net benefit to the American worker?


25 posted on 06/01/2017 8:28:29 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: PGR88

Whichever way he decides there will be massive backlash.

Hopefully, he fears his base more and will listen to Bannon and not Tillerson


26 posted on 06/01/2017 8:29:00 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick

If these CEOs really believed this climate change crap they wouldn’t live as they do.


27 posted on 06/01/2017 8:30:36 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: central_va

“I think Trump will have congress vote on it. I wish he would just kill it outright.”

If he does that it will get the 2/3 votes count on it. This crap is the left’s key to power, control and unlimited funding. They will get the votes.


28 posted on 06/01/2017 8:31:14 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: central_va

I think you are right..gives him an out.

Even with that there will be backlash from both sides of the argument.


29 posted on 06/01/2017 8:31:42 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
..."When it comes to policy, the goal should be to reduce emissions at the lowest cost to society,"...

No. When it comes to policy, the goals should be to ditch the bogus Paris Climate Agreement and to completely remove all vestiges of Global Warming from the federal government.

Global Warming, or whatever name it morphs into, is a scam foisted on the unwary by totalitarians. It has no basis in science. It is designed to overwhelm the common man's pocketbook by death through a thousand cuts and make him dependent on the federal government.

CEOs are free to commit their companies, it's bondholders, stockholders, and employees to this nonsense. They can suffer marketplace consequences. But the federal government has no authority to subject the nation to this.

30 posted on 06/01/2017 8:31:57 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: dsrtsage

There must be tons and tons and tons and tons of money involved somehow

...

That’s what pops into my head.

They must be well positioned to make money from the scam.


31 posted on 06/01/2017 8:31:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: RummyChick

if the Paris Climate Accord is set to cost the USA jobs and cause energy prices to rise by 20%, then Trump has no choice but to get us out of it. If he doesn’t, it will likely cost him his political future, if the ruling elite don’t get him first.


32 posted on 06/01/2017 8:32:33 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: RummyChick

Blah blah blah.

Irrespective of our “membership “ in the accord, individuals and companies can choose to reduce emissions as they see fit.

There is nothing preventing that at all.

Which means the reason to get into the “accord” is something else. What is it? My money?

Add to the subterfuge that the biggest polluters - China and India - aren’t even in the “accord”. Which means rules promulgated by the “accord” represent than 3% of emissions. That’s pointless. So why join up? More of my money?

Add to the subterfuge and the glaring omission of China and India the fact that nobody is even sure we’re causing warming or that we can slow it....or even that it matters...the earth changes it over time in cycles so who’s to say this isn’t normal?! Why continue the preposterous argument? Even more of my money?

It’s a load of crap and Trump had better not subject us to it. He promised he’d get us out from under it and it’s simply a decision for him to make.

It would be a real problem for his base should he make the wrong choice.


33 posted on 06/01/2017 8:34:11 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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To: Mr. Douglas
This is not about money. It is about power and control - of every living, breathing human being.

Bingo. It's central planning and rationing, all run by the world government. They tell you how much energy you get. And also how much housing, food, education, transportation, information...

...and liberty. Which will be a very minimal ration to be sure. People who are subject to rationing are not free.

34 posted on 06/01/2017 8:34:44 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: gibsonguy

“All of this crap is Trumps fault for dragging this out.”

A whole 4 months....wow...that’s some “drag”.

Go panic in the corner.

Jesus, and some of you call the left “pajama boys”?


35 posted on 06/01/2017 8:35:52 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Mr. Douglas

“This is not about money. It is about power and control - of every living, breathing human being.”


THIS.

How do you circumvent the (remaining) constitutional freedoms of US citizens?

- Invent or identify a fictional, world-ending situation
- Create rules and laws to prevent that situation which require forfeiture of the citizen’s rights and wealth

End


36 posted on 06/01/2017 8:36:17 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: dsrtsage

“Tons and Tons of Money involved”. You had better believe that. As with every Political event, just “Follow the Money” to see what is behind it. Money is the Mothers Milk of Politics and that will never change. These screaming CEO’s see Trumps decision to back out of the Paris Treaty as nothing more than a big hit on them personally or the future Profit Margins of their Corporations. As usual, it is always about the money.


37 posted on 06/01/2017 8:37:02 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)
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If Trump makes congress vote on it he should give them a deadline. Something like “This is a one time chance, you have 30 days to bring this to the floor for a vote”. Otherwise I will kill it outright.


38 posted on 06/01/2017 8:37:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RummyChick

My guess is that oil companies, over time and at a considerable amount of pain, have accommodated what they saw as an unavoidable international climate change regime. Maybe they’ve been thrown a few bones along the way as well, but they’ve made their plans to get along as best they could with what they assumed to be an unalterable status quo.

Now whatever deals and accommodations they’ve, or strategies for coping with the climate change regime are out the window, and they will have to go back to the drawing board. They’re probably equally worried that when the days of Trump are over, there may be a new administration that gets them right back in the climate regime.

So I see this as much an aversion to uncertainty as anything else.

I do not think this was an instance of “agree to the climate change regime and we’ll pay you X billions of dollars in an unmarked brown paper C-141.”


39 posted on 06/01/2017 8:38:01 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: dsrtsage

If you read the statements made by all the deep pocket companies involved, you’ll pick up on their concerns very fast. It is all about their bottom line. Oh, they throw in a tear for the environment every so often but the main concern is $$$$$$$$$$$$$!


40 posted on 06/01/2017 8:40:02 AM PDT by wideyed (Tom B.)
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