As White House defends Jared Kushner, experts question his back-channel move {Hypocritical BS}

washingtonpost.com ^ | May 28, 2017 | Phillip and Ehrenfreund

[drpix]

The Trump administration argued over the weekend that back-channel communications are acceptable in building dialogue with foreign governments, part of an effort to minimize fallout over White House adviser Jared Kushner’s reported discussion about creating a secret conduit to the Kremlin at a Russian diplomatic compound.

But some former administration officials on Sunday criticized the use of such secret channels...

[9YearLurker]

Sorry:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/05/29/president-trump-his-son-law-jared-doing-great-job-for-country/4dm3SO31z47fA0wiYk6I2K/story.html

[9YearLurker]

Let’s hope his career in government withers and he takes his liberal Democrat influence and ways back to the public sector (along with all the liberals and GOPe schemers he filled his father-in-law’s WH with).

[Rockingham]

On balance, Israel's demographics are relatively favorable due to continued Jewish immigration and the fraudulence of the Palestinian population figures, which are inflated in order to flim-flam more cash from donors.

If pressed, Israel could bulk up against Muslim birth rates by admitting Christian refugees and improving relations with its fundamentally loyal Christian community. In doing so, Israel could supplement its identity as a Jewish and Zionist state by declaring that it will also be a home for Christians fleeing Muslim oppression. That would have Europeans and the Vatican curia doing spit takes over their morning expressos as such news comes over CNN International.

From what I have read, Trump agreed with the Saudis to make an effort on the Palestinian issue without committing to a specific proposal or outcome, with the Saudis said to agree to cut financing to the PA if they did not cooperate. That seems to have played out for now in that Abbas has already been exposed as a liar to Trump in his claim that he and the Palestinian Authority did not engage in anti-Jewish incitement. Netanyahu easily exposed that as untrue.

The two state solution is a fantasy now more than ever. Due to the potential for enhanced terrorism, not just Israel but the Egyptian and Jordanian governments as well see a Palestinian state as a dire menace to their security. No one likes the Palestinians, who are privately reviled and scorned throughout the Muslim world for their disloyalty, violence, and criminal tendencies. They could continue for decades under their current arrangements, awaiting larger events to settle their fate.

[Rockingham]

For the near future, Kushner will find that much of his time and energy are taken up with lawyers and trying to combat adverse publicity, and then with giving testimony that has an appreciable risk of prosecution if he gets anything wrong.

[9YearLurker]

But unless he retreats to NY, Ivanka will still be there pushing the making up to $300K a year, which has made it into the initial draft, at least, of the president’s budget.

[Rockingham]

For most people, the fun, thrilling aspect of politics usually evaporates after two or three years, and more quickly when one’s spouse is experiencing the meat grinder of an investigation and a hostile media. I think that in time Ivanka will draw back from any public duties.

[trebb]

"Experts" question it....More WaaaaaPo fake news.

Akin to their headline that Merkel says Germany can no longer depend on the US - her actual words were to the effect that the days when they could rely on others is near at hand and they must take responsibility for their own destiny into their own hands - IOW, she got the message about self-responsibility/reliance vs. expecting to be a welfare recipient.

[9YearLurker]

But how much damage will she have done?

If the Democrats regain the House in 2018, Trump’s administration is over.

[PMAS]

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[palmer]

Palestinian population figures, which are inflated in order to flim-flam more cash from donors

Not Palestinians, Israeli Arabs.

If pressed, Israel could bulk up against Muslim birth rates by admitting Christian refugees and improving relations with its fundamentally loyal Christian community.

True, but currently it is the world's only Jewish state, so they won't do that.

The two state solution is a fantasy now more than ever. Due to the potential for enhanced terrorism, not just Israel but the Egyptian and Jordanian governments as well see a Palestinian state as a dire menace to their security.

True, and the Palestinians will vote for whatever terrorist instructs them to vote for him. But the Israelis have to balance between being destroyed from outside and destroyed from within. Some two state solution won't stop the former, but might help with the latter. Maybe three states, one terrorist Islamist, one secular and one Jewish.

[Grampa Dave]

Ben Franklin was probably our first back channel guy!

Heck, I did some minor back channel stuff in the mid to late 1960’s to the early 1970’s in the DC area.

[Nifster]

Ding ding ding ding

You are correct

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the great history lesson.

I loved the stories about Randy Franklin in Paris have a great time while using the back channels to save our fledgling country.

[drpix]

"Sorry" ??????

You do know the headline is Trump's "great" assessment of Kushner? And the article seems to me to be dismissive of that Trump assessment.

[4yearlurker]

The media sure do love their "experts."

[drpix]

Your WP quote: "But foreign policy experts and former officials told The Washington Post such a request of the Russians would be inappropriate unless carefully coordinated with the Obama administration, which was in office at the time."

Because Trump's back channel moves began when he was only President elect? More media BS! They celebrate Obama for doing it before he was even elected:

HuffingtonPost:
"My Life as a Secret Back Channel in Iran" Excerpt:

"In the case of Obama, the secret contacts began during the election campaign of 2008, when William Miller, a former diplomat and staff director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, flew back and forth between Washington and Tehran. He was an ideal choice: an Obama loyalist, a believer in the possibility of a US-Iranian modus vivendi, and a trained diplomat..."

[9YearLurker]

Trump only has two speeds, “Great” and “You’re fired”. I totally agree that the “back channel” chatter is absolutely nothing.

But Jivanka have been a disaster for his admin overall—pushing him to bring in GOPe trolls like Priebus and all of Priebus’s hires, and Democrat/GOPe trolls like Cohn, Powell, McMaster, etc. Their pushing for liberal positions is a disaster as well.

As the article I linked to details, Jared is not the hero some would like to paint him as—rather, he is a pox on the Trump administration and needs to go.

[drpix]

I agree Jared & Ivanka ("Javanka") should not part of the Trump administration - if not for any other reason (which there are many) because Trump's enemies are putting their hopes in the two.

A prime example is the wife pulling the strings on the Murdoch son - whose purging FOX of Trump supporters.

She reveals her view on Trump on Twitter [LINK]:

She is also hostile towards White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon - while a fan of Ivanka & Jared:

But I don't want Trump to surrender the two over this media fabricated Russian back channel BS. It would only strengthen the hand of his enemies.

[Rockingham]

Alas, although Muslim Arabs live in peace, security, and prosperity in Israel, far too many yearn to see their Jewish neighbors dead or subjugated under Sharia law. Perhaps the Palestinian territories will one day provide a venue into which to expel the disloyal and dangerous.

[upchuck]

Bump! Thanks for that find. I will never be able to say enough bad things about nobama. Came close, real close, to ruining our precious country.

What a difference with President Trump.