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There's a new push to remove more monuments in New Orleans (Andrew Jackson)
Fox 8 ^ | 05/25/2017 | Kimberly Curth

Posted on 05/27/2017 6:35:47 PM PDT by Trump20162020

NEW ORLEANS, LA (WVUE) - There's a new push to have more monuments removed in New Orleans, including the French Quarter's iconic Andrew Jackson statue.

The group Take Em Down Nola says the removal of four statues is not enough.

"We're issuing an invitation to the mayor to finish the job. He has already begun the job, and we want him to finish the job," said Malcolm Suber, Take Em Down NOLA spokesman.

"What we would like to see in their place is people who stood for people and liberation. For instance, we think since Harriet Tubman is going to replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill," Suber said. "We don't understand why we can't turn Jackson Square into Harriet Tubman Square. At Lee Circle, we don't understand why we can't turn Lee Circle into Dorothy Mae Taylor Circle. Dorothy Mae Taylor was one of the most courageous black leaders in this city. She led the effort to desegregate Mardi Gras."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: andrewjackson; bluezones; dixie; neworleans; nola; purge
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To: jeffersondem; Ray76

Well, I really, really believe everyone knew exactly what war I was referring to, don’t you????


81 posted on 05/27/2017 7:48:34 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Steely Tom

When will they start burning their $20 bills?


82 posted on 05/27/2017 7:49:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Trump20162020
the removal of four statues is not enough.

Is it ever?

83 posted on 05/27/2017 7:49:55 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: JBW1949

You must mean the “Northern War of Aggression”


84 posted on 05/27/2017 7:50:31 PM PDT by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: Trump20162020

We don’t understand why we can’t turn the Immigrant Monument into the Herman Leighton Monument. Herman Leighton was a black substitute school janitor who successfully lobbied to have last call in the French Quarter extended from 1:30 to 2:00 a.m.


85 posted on 05/27/2017 7:51:34 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
None other than Bill Clinton talked about this and said the way to get segregation back is to pretend to be on blacks' side and support them into having their own so-called safe spaces and events, like the black-only graduation at Harvard.

There you go. What shall we name that day?


86 posted on 05/27/2017 7:53:38 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: jeffersondem; JBW1949
War of Northern Aggression.

Lie. Tell him/her what you really call it.

87 posted on 05/27/2017 7:54:02 PM PDT by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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To: Trump20162020

And after Jackson it will be George Washigton.


88 posted on 05/27/2017 7:57:49 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Finalapproach29er

I don’t want them to be erased from history but I do want the truth about them to be told instead of having MLK’s records sealed and the media protecting both JFK and MLK.

Apparently there is a large contingent here on FR who think it is just ducky to worship a serial adulterer, A Communist agitator and still call him Dr. King even tho it is now known that he did not earn that degree.

If a prominent Southern Baptist leader had done that, then it would be impossible to mention their name without adding the baggage.

Some people are more equal than others and it just so happens the ones who always get the benefits are the ones who claim to have been bereft of them but actually are treated like Kings, pun intended.


89 posted on 05/27/2017 8:01:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: cabbieguy; jeffersondem; Ray76

The American Civil War was fought in the United States from 1861 to 1865. After a long standing controversy over slavery and state’s rights, war broke out in April, 1861, when Confederates attacked Fort Sumter in South Carolina, shortly after Abraham Lincoln was elected. The Union faced secessionists in eleven Southern states grouped together as the Confederate States of America. The Union won the war, which remains the bloodiest in U.S. history.

Among the 34 U.S. states in February 1861, seven Southern slave states individually declared their secession from the U.S. to form the Confederate States of America. The Confederacy grew to include eleven states; it claimed two more border states (Kentucky and Missouri), the Indian Territory, and the southern portions of the western territories of Arizona and New Mexico, which was organized and incorporated into the Confederacy as Confederate Arizona. The Confederacy was never diplomatically recognized by the United States government, nor was it recognized by any foreign country (although some countries such as Britain and France recognized it as a belligerent power). The states that remained loyal, including the border states where slavery was legal, were known as the Union or the North. The war ended with the surrender of all the Confederate armies and the dissolution of the Confederate government in the spring of 1865.

The Union won the war when General Robert E. Lee surrendered to General Ulysses S. Grant at the battle of Appomattox, which triggered a series of surrenders by Confederate generals throughout the southern states. Four years of intense combat left 620,000 to 750,000 soldiers dead, a higher number than the number of American military deaths in World War I and World War II combined, and much of the South’s infrastructure was destroyed. The Confederacy collapsed and 4 million slaves were freed (most of them by Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation). The Reconstruction Era (1863–1877) overlapped and followed the war, with the process of restoring national unity, strengthening the national government, and granting civil rights to freed slaves throughout the country.


90 posted on 05/27/2017 8:02:03 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: JBW1949

Yes. It was jsut an FYI


91 posted on 05/27/2017 8:02:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Army Air Corps

> This why you do not surrender an inch to Commies. No matter what you surrender, it is never enough.

The only good commie is a commie on a helicopter ride.


92 posted on 05/27/2017 8:03:48 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: HandyDandy

Old Hickory is not my hero. He forced Native Americans including the Cherokee, to leave their ancient home in the East to relocate in the new “Indian Territory” of Oklahoma. Jackson forced men, women, children, aged and infirm to trek across near wilderness in the dead of a harsh winter,many hundreds of these peaceful people died along the way, thus the name “Trail of Tears” I wish govnt would remove is image from the $20 bill.


93 posted on 05/27/2017 8:05:01 PM PDT by ghostkatz (catslivesmatter....all 9 of them)
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To: cabbieguy; jeffersondem; Ray76

http://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/american-civil-war-history

Wow...How can Wikipedia and History.com be so wrong????

You guys really need to set them straight on what the war was REALLY called....


94 posted on 05/27/2017 8:07:51 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: JBW1949

I believe the real beginning of the war was Lincoln’s asking for 75,000 volunteers. Everyone knew what they were for. They were to invade the South.

Lincoln occupied any strong points in the South where he thought he might hold out including Ft. Sumpter and Ft. Pickens. The South told Lincoln they would not fire on Ft. Sumpter unless it was resupplied which meant they intended to keep it.

No country could allow a fort blocking their most important city.

Lincoln knew this and sent supplies with the exact purpose of starting the war.


95 posted on 05/27/2017 8:11:19 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: ghostkatz

>Old Hickory is not my hero. He forced Native Americans including the Cherokee, to leave their ancient home in the East to relocate in the new “Indian Territory” of Oklahoma. Jackson forced men, women, children, aged and infirm to trek across near wilderness in the dead of a harsh winter,many hundreds of these peaceful people died along the way, thus the name “Trail of Tears” I wish govnt would remove is image from the $20 bill.

It was either that or let the settlers kill them all.

He’s the historical context:

>Andrew Jackson did not listen to the Supreme Court mandate barring Georgia from intruding on Cherokee lands. He feared that enforcement would lead to open warfare between federal troops and the Georgia militia, which would compound the ongoing crisis in South Carolina and lead to a broader civil war. Instead, he vigorously negotiated a land exchange treaty with the Cherokee.[18] Political opponents Henry Clay and John Quincy Adams, who supported the Worcester decision, were outraged by Jackson’s refusal to uphold Cherokee claims against the state of Georgia.[19] Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote an account of Cherokee assimilation into the American culture, declaring his support of the Worcester decision.[20][21]

>Jackson chose to continue with Indian removal, and negotiated The Treaty of New Echota, on December 29, 1835, which granted Cherokee Indians two years to move to Indian Territory (modern Oklahoma). Only a fraction of the Cherokees left voluntarily. The U.S. government, with assistance from state militias, forced most of the remaining Cherokees west in 1838.[22] The Cherokees were temporarily remanded in camps in eastern Tennessee. In November, the Cherokee were broken into groups of around 1,000 each and began the journey west. They endured heavy rains, snow, and freezing temperatures.

Those who can’t defend themselves will soon have everything taken from them.


96 posted on 05/27/2017 8:13:06 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: JohnyBoy

97 posted on 05/27/2017 8:16:18 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: JohnyBoy

The land the Cherokee were given in Eastern, Oklahoma was absolutely beautiful country. I lived there for 5 years.


98 posted on 05/27/2017 8:19:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: ghostkatz

I know the tide of history is against him because of the Trail of Tears. If this removal of his statue was being sought by Native Americans, I’d be more sympathetic. I have not heard this NOLA group mention the Trail Of Tears In their list of grievances. Overlooking the Trail of Tears, the man was a giant figure in the forming of the USA. And he was white. They want to rub out his memory because he was a bad white man. The USA would have been a short lived experiment if Andrew Jackson had not stopped the British in the Battle of New Orleans.


99 posted on 05/27/2017 8:21:01 PM PDT by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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To: yarddog

A big part of the land taken from them is now The Great Smoky Mountains National Park...THAT is absolutely beautiful....


100 posted on 05/27/2017 8:24:41 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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