[stevem]

I'm pretty sure my Dad never had two nickels he could rub together. He did have seven kids, two that preceded him to Valhalla. The other five were his close friends who were with him at the end.

The other five remained close friends with each other.

Making babies and raising kids is an act of faith. I know from personal experience, it's also a fulfilling line of work if you do it right, although I didn't do it to my parents' degree.

People so into self fulfillment that they have no time for acts of faith don't have to worry about dying and going to hell. They are living in it.

[JohnyBoy]

> People so into self fulfillment that they have no time for acts of faith don’t have to worry about dying and going to hell. They are living in it.

It’s really more a factor of women’s liberation. The more liberated women are the fewer the kids they have. Men don’t have much of a say in the matter.

[NYer]

People so into self fulfillment that they have no time for acts of faith don't have to worry about dying and going to hell. They are living in it.

Kudos! You nailed it. Our society has evolved into one of self fulfillment. Parents invest in their children's college education in hopes of them achieving success. With success comes time commitments, leaving little or no time for a family. Even in Japan, pets are now the new family, not human children. Meanwhile, the muslims are reproducing like rabbits, poised to take over the west. Fortunately, I won't be around to see this.