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1 posted on 05/14/2017 6:46:38 AM PDT by Baynative
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https://youtu.be/6Q5_oV4JB10 Everything you need to know Ajit Pai FCC chairman tells you


2 posted on 05/14/2017 6:53:30 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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Effectively, it comes down to not prioritizing data based on price — not allowing website operators (Google, Amazon, or NetFlix) to pay for faster access for its customers.

Those wanting net neutrality don't want the Comcasts of the country to get extra profit at the expense of making their website access slower by default, as prioritizing bandwidth means there is already scarcity of speed and throughput.

3 posted on 05/14/2017 6:54:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Vanities are not “news.” This belongs in chat.


5 posted on 05/14/2017 7:00:05 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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Before Netflix internet providers sold unlimited data plans. When Netflix got widespread, it became responsible for (currently) one third of the internet traffic. Providers therefore had some people to whom they could still profitably offer unlimited data, and Netflix users. Verizon sued to charge extra for Netflix streaming.

Here is where it gets interesting. The government, that has never seen a problem that it can't "solve" by making worse, decided to get involved. People became convinced that we needed something called net neutrality, to make sure that some providers didn't charge more for different sites. Propaganda suggesting censorship was hinted at. Government was itching to get at the internet and this was their door.

Meanwhile, Verizon's suit dragged on, but Verizon decided to end unlimited data. Other data providers followed suit. Eventually, they upgraded their networks, Trump became POTUS and drove a well deserved stake through the heart of "Net Neutrality" and, "surprise" Verizon is now offering unlimited data again. Problem solved without the government. But that doesn't stop the bureaucrats from still trying for that power grab.

7 posted on 05/14/2017 7:09:55 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2014/11/11/why-obama-is-wrong-on-net-neutrality.html


8 posted on 05/14/2017 7:24:05 AM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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The internet was free. Obama and his types want to increase regulation of everything on it, content, traffic, etc.
And in the grand tradition of federal legislation, the Title will always mean the precise opposite of the goal of the law.
Affordable healthcare act and PATRIOT act are two examples.

Net neutrality sounds really nice and fair. The opposite is true.


9 posted on 05/14/2017 7:26:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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It depends whether you are a believer in free markets or not.


11 posted on 05/14/2017 7:33:33 AM PDT by monocle
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The basis of net neutrality are how packets are routed on the internet backbone. The routers should not care what the packets contain, but provide each packet with the same level of service.

Your ISP is only the last link between you and the backbone. A typical packet will hit ten to fifteen routers as it makes its way to your computer.


12 posted on 05/14/2017 7:36:31 AM PDT by proxy_user
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ISP's want to charge you more for every byte you download. They add obscure charges and absurd "plans". AT&T used to have no data caps and one single plan for a single download speed. Now that have four and a data cap. According to them it was "unfair" for some users to use more bandwidth than others while paying the same price as low bandwidth users. Now speed is the big thing.
ISP's have a love/hate relationship with Netflix, Hulu and the rest. They want to start their own movie service to get a piece of the money pie. So if you like Netflix and your ISP has it's own movie service, they may throttle Netflix speeds and offer their service at an outrageous price for sparse content. Then you have other movie services that pay your ISP to throttle net speeds to Netflix in your area and again offer their service. An ISP may not like a political candidate...so they throttle his or her website, maybe taking money from the opposing candidate to throttle the website. People think that regulation will stop it, just more money will be payed to create loopholes to get around it. It goes on.
17 posted on 05/14/2017 8:18:07 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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It's not as cut-and-dried as some would have you believe.

For me, it boils down to private companies being able to take advantage of monopolistic features of the cable/broadband industry. Any time you have a situation like that, it's not necessarily correct to just say "let the private service providers do whatever they want".

When a company has been granted (or enjoys) a de facto monopoly over a resource, counterbalancing measures are sometimes justified.

Of course, there are highly dogmatic arguments to be made by both "sides", but this is a situation where some middle g round might need to be contemplated—although I can't say what that might be.

Having said all that, I haven't decided where I stand on the "net neutrality" issue...

19 posted on 05/14/2017 8:30:15 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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Most on the right are going to reflexively oppose net neutrality because it is essentially government regulation which most of us agree is bad. The difference is that unlike most government solutions which are in search of a problem, net neutrality actually is a problem.

I don't think net neutrality regulations are the answer, but easier ability to start ISP companies would certainly help. The fundamental problem is eventually going to be that you are going to buy what you think is "internet" from an ISP, but what you are going to get is going to be "Alphabet Inc." (google).

I am a fan of free markets, but there honestly is a serious danger in collecting all information through a single provider particularly one that pretentiously uses the motto don't be evil and proceeds to implement state censorship to get profits from China.

20 posted on 05/14/2017 8:39:19 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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Net Neutrality = Net NOT Neutrality = censorship

1) Text, small data, high value info content
2) Audio, medium, lesser content
3) Video, HOG available data, poorest quality content

The NOT neutrality folks want high value content censored.
Less DrudgeReports, censor conservative comments.

High video trash will HOG the internet data lines.

Net NOT Neutrality is CENSORSHIP of conservative truth.


21 posted on 05/14/2017 8:58:01 AM PDT by TheNext (Just Build the Wall!)
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AT&T, Verzion, a few others want total control of Internet.....Google, Facebook a few others want total control and just about have it. Net Neutrality big govt (bought and paid for in both parties) want total control of Internet.

None of the above groups have the American people’s best interest in mind.


33 posted on 05/14/2017 2:01:00 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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