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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Here’s voxday on the election:

>What is remarkable about the election today is that the French people have already turned against the established anti-nationalist parties, rejecting both in the first round of voting. But while they are willing to reject both sides of the establishment, they are not yet ready to turn to the nationalists. In this, Macron plays much the same role as Trump; he is a nominal outsider who, despite his elite connections, was not a player in either establishment party.

>Macron will fail abysmally, of course, which is why I expect the Front National, possibly led by Marine Le Pen’s more telegenic niece, Marion Maréchal-Le Pen, to come to power in the next election cycle.

>Americans who cannot fathom this reluctance to vote for the nationalists in light of the events in Paris and Nice would do well to recall their own history. Did Americans turn against immigration, foreign interference, and the establishment parties immediately after 9/11? Of course not. It took 15 years, and three full presidential cycles, before they were ready to turn to the God-Emperor, and even then it was a close-run thing.

>National electorates are like very large ships. It takes them a while to change direction. But, once they genuinely turn - and I am not counting choosing one color faction of the bi-factional ruling party instead of the other - that’s when real and substantive change can take place.


6 posted on 05/07/2017 11:16:14 AM PDT by RedWulf
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To: RedWulf

That is a good perspective .


136 posted on 05/07/2017 1:08:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: RedWulf

“Did Americans turn against immigration, foreign interference, and the establishment parties immediately after 9/11?”

Absolutely.

It still boggles my mind how NICE we are, after what those Moslems did.

There was some tough talk on all sides for a bit (including kibosh on the illegal-imm movement that had started then and was becoming all the rage at that very time, Bush had to stop his stupid talk), but of course, liberals comported themselves and became their typical equivocating enabling selves again by December.


156 posted on 05/07/2017 2:13:47 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: RedWulf; Yaelle

Not a player? Macron, a BANKER was MINISTER OF THE ECONOMY under the current socialist President, before that he was the French equivalent of the President’s deputy chief of staff. Outsider? Vox is sniffing glue.


164 posted on 05/07/2017 2:41:16 PM PDT by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: RedWulf

France might not make it to the next election cycle.


234 posted on 05/08/2017 3:06:35 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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