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Trump stirs debate in remarks on American Civil War
BBC ^ | 5/1/17

Posted on 05/01/2017 3:39:29 PM PDT by Timpanagos1

US President Donald Trump has stirred debate by asking why the American Civil War happened, and pondering whether it could have been "worked out".

In a radio interview, he suggested the conflict might have been avoided if President Andrew Jackson had still been in office.

The 1861-65 Civil War between the northern and southern states was principally caused by slavery.

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To: IrishBrigade
Several northern states, exercising their states' rights, decided that they would not require the return of escaped slaves to their self-styled "owners".

Many southern politicians disagreed, believing that the Federal fugitive slave law should preempt states' rights.

Thereupon the southern states seceded in order to form a new federal government of their own, under which states were not free to make their own laws regarding slavery.

So yes! the Civil War originated as a states' rights issue. It's just that the north was the pro states' rights side........

61 posted on 05/01/2017 4:42:56 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Bull Snipe
The only State Right the South was interested in was the right to own slaves and take them where ever they wanted to

Damn straight, and I grow weary of those who call themselves supporters of a "Free Republic" while making excuses for hereditary chattel slavery.

62 posted on 05/01/2017 4:47:47 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: rednek
Declaration of Causes of Seceding States
63 posted on 05/01/2017 4:47:49 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Sopater

Don’t tell Keff Davis and his boys that. Their declaration specifically states that the secession was about slavery


64 posted on 05/01/2017 4:49:55 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Vic S
If the conflict was over slavery, why didn’t Congress and Lincoln pass a law making it illegal?

Ever heard of the 13th Amendment?

65 posted on 05/01/2017 4:50:37 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Timpanagos1

Slaves caused The Civil War. I knew it.


66 posted on 05/01/2017 4:58:57 PM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: MeganC

And that’s why the Confederates opened fire on Fort Sumter?


67 posted on 05/01/2017 5:00:49 PM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: BradyLS

The North went to war to preserve the Union and won. The South went to war to preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor and lost everything.


68 posted on 05/01/2017 5:02:40 PM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He may have been reading up on his Jackson lately. What numerous cities, and possibly soon the state of California, are doing with regard to sanctuary cities is tantamount to nullification. It will be interesting, that’s for sure.


69 posted on 05/01/2017 5:05:01 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I call Obama "osama" because he damaged us far more than Osama bin Ladin ever did.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Damn straight, and I grow weary of those who call themselves supporters of a “Free Republic” while making excuses for hereditary chattel slavery.

interesting point; I don’t think they excuse chattel slavery so much as they wish to protect ancestral legacy...and in this regard I sympathize, as the memory of many fine Southerners is being slandered with the broad brush of history revision...


70 posted on 05/01/2017 5:28:52 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: rednek

Which specific “states rights”?


71 posted on 05/01/2017 5:31:17 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: DoodleDawg

That was AFTER the civil war. I’m talking about prior to war.


72 posted on 05/01/2017 5:31:43 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: exit82

The number I’ve been hearing recently is more like 750,000, the vast majority of whom died of camp diseases. And you’re right - it certainly wasn’t worth it, not least of all for the harm it did to the overall American culture that still resonates today. Not to mention that it settled by force a matter of law that should have been settled by debate (the right to secede from the Union).


73 posted on 05/01/2017 5:34:39 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Gunslingr3

I suggest that you might read Freeing slaves.enslaving free men.


74 posted on 05/01/2017 5:35:28 PM PDT by Midnitethecat
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To: Vic S
That was AFTER the civil war. I’m talking about prior to war.

They couldn't do it prior to the war since Lincoln wasn't president. But regardless, before, during, or after the war it took a Constitutional amendment to end slavery. A law couldn't do it.

75 posted on 05/01/2017 5:37:14 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Timpanagos1
In a radio interview, he suggested the conflict might have been avoided if President Andrew Jackson had still been in office.

Well, Andy certainly opposed nullification, so he would have opposed secession too. Still, I'm not a big Jackson fan since he founded the party that has become "the never-ending source of all our national afflictions." And Jacksonian Dems were every bit as crooked as their modern descendants.

Of course, Jackson would have been in his nineties and beginning his eighth consecutive term by the time the Civil War happened (and he died in 1845), so I have no idea where Trump is going with this.

76 posted on 05/01/2017 5:37:19 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: Vic S

The war of Northern Agression was fought because the Confederate States wanted out of the United States.

OK, and why exactly did they want out of the Union...?


77 posted on 05/01/2017 5:37:31 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Vic S

The War of Southern Rebellion was fought because the south had a hissy fit over losing an election. Dhimmicrats acting like sore losers then; dhimmicrats acting like sore losers now.


78 posted on 05/01/2017 5:39:19 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Hardastarboard

The South applied the right principle to the wrong reason and thus forever discredited the principle.


79 posted on 05/01/2017 5:40:10 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

The South applied the right principle to the wrong reason and thus forever discredited the principle.

good point...


80 posted on 05/01/2017 5:42:05 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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