Posted on 04/27/2017 12:39:16 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
United Airlines has a reached a settlement for an undisclosed sum with the passenger who was dragged from a Chicago flight earlier this month in an incident that sparked international outrage, an attorney for the passenger said on Thursday.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
I was just relating to you what United flight attendants said. I didn’t bookmark that article, so I can’t link it. [Btw, I still trust the FAs to know what they’re talking about. It’s their workplace, and they had a lot at stake when they criticized the thugs.]
Here’s a good link, though. It’s written by a law prof for a legal journal:
http://www.newsweek.com/why-united-were-legally-wrong-deplane-dr-dao-583535
“That is exactly where I’m at. A pox on all of them.”
You sound just like most of the GOPe House members.
He was not charged because they have no case.
Discovery ... like...
"You remember the time when we did (@@#$) to that guy?" Or "That was classic. We got that (%$#@) good, we did." Discovery is a bitch.
“The federal mandates for Common Carriers make it illegal to actively put a passenger’s health and well-being at risk. United screwed up almost beyond what is humanly possible. How you can defend them is beyond me.”
Yeah, next time United needs a more “effective” security team. Bring in Chicago SWAT and shoot up the whole plane! It does not matter how Dr. Dao behaved, the way this was handled was deplorable and completely unnecessary. Particularly because UAL was not accommodated “overbooked” passengers by their actions, but rather simply trying to fix an internal staffing matter.
I hope Dao got a bundle! Now if we could only do the same thing to government employees who treat citizens similarly. And that is a much, much bigger problem.
I believe it. The CIA hires heavily from the Ivy leagues, and look how well they have been doing their job for the last 60 years.
The Ivies have been cranking out pretentious incompetents for quite some time. They are often "too smart by half", Robert McNamara being an example. (MBA Harvard.)
‘I hope Dao got a bundle!’
What a coincidence! That just happens to be Dao’s attorney’s middle name: Thomas a’Bundle Demetrio. (They say he’s half Irish.)
jk
But I thoroughly agreed with your whole post. The government IS the bigger problem. If Trump can’t drain the swamp, we’re sunk.
Here’s a good link, though. It’s written by a law prof for a legal journal:
I've seen this and another legal argument and they boil down to the specifics of the contract and what the definitions of specific words mean. It will depend upon what the Judge decides they mean.
However, the United Personnel were acting under the belief that they had the legal right to remove Dr. Dao, and the police most certainly had the legal responsibility to remove Dr. Dao after he had been designated an unwelcome guest by the airline.
The police do not have to demand to see the contract, all they have to have is an agent of the Airlines telling them the man is an unwelcome guest, and then it becomes within their legal authority to remove him.
Whether or not United's agents had the legal right to remove Dr. Dao is a civil law matter, but so far as the police are concerned, the police had a legal right to remove him because they had a valid complainant.
I note that according to your article, 3 other people were removed from the flight without incident. It is only Dr. Dao that decided to throw a screaming fit and resist.
There is a good legal argument that Dao had a right to keep that seat, but I don't think he has a legal argument to resist the police in removing him once an agent of the airline designated him as an unwelcome guest.
He could have removed himself in a dignified fashion and thereafter sued the airline for breech of contract, but instead he decided to act like a fool, and as a result he got hurt.
I think the airline settled because the bad publicity was costing them more than the settlement would.
No it couldn’t have been. Under the circumstances, had they told me that I was randomly selected from the passengers and that they would like me to leave, I would have done so with decorum.
1. You’re flying to try to get to your father’s bedside before he dies.
2. You’re flying to get to your mother’s funeral.
3. You’re flying to get to your daughter’s wedding.
4. You’re a doctor and have to see patients the next morning.
It was a Sunday night flight, most people had to be to work on Monday.
The flight had already been delayed two hours.
They were not offering money but company credit that you could use on your next full price ticket.
At best you would have been up maybe $50 for a night in Chicago without your luggage.
Since you would not be there to get your luggage it is very likely your bags would have grown little legs and walked off. And the airline would have shrugged and say they got it to St Louis and after that it was not their problem.
‘It is only Dr. Dao that decided to throw a screaming fit and resist.’
You’ve been corrected on this point yet you continue to make a demonstrably false claim. That’s called trolling. If you’re not paying attention to anything anyone says—or to their factual citations—then there’s no point in this discussion.
[Note: You said the video had been disabled in my prior link. The text was still there, and the person who recorded the inception of the incident says you are DEAD WRONG. Not that it will matter to you; nothing does.]
Btw, you were 100% wrong about the substance of the article written by the law prof, too.
Why does that not surprise me?
Where to start?
First off, he was not in violation of the contract. The contract says that a seated passenger can only be removed for one of 19 different reasons, i.e. drunk, rowdy, smelly, blind without a guide, etc.
Needing your seat for another employee ain’t on the list, and United has admitted this.
The ‘police’ were not called. These were not police. They were unarmed security guards. They have no right to issue ‘orders’ to anyone. Other posts have indicated they didn’t even have a right to be on the plane at all.
The police do not have to demand to see the contract, all they have to have is an agent of the Airlines telling them the man is an unwelcome guest, and then it becomes within their legal authority to remove him.
There is even a question on whether or not they could even legally be on the plane.
The 3 suspended airport security officers wrote reports laying the blame on Dr Dao for his injuries. However, 2 of those officers prefaced their report with the claim they wrote it under duress and only to keep from being fired. The officer who slammed Dao made no such disclaimer. Very odd. Their reports can be seen here =>
The whole problem with your hypothesis is that they weren't cops! They were security officers. No power to arrest.
PRofessional gambler too. He knew exactly what he was doing. Probably did cause his own injuries.
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I’ve been saying since day one that I think he’s a scammer, but I’ve taken a lot of heat for it.
Why do we no longer have people with common sense and dignity?
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You’re looking at it backwards. Everyone else on the plane, including those who deplaned as requested, demonstrated their common sense and dignity. The only passenger who didn’t was the doctor. He decided to trigger an altercation so he could sue the airline.
“Chicago Airport Police”
They are no longer police been demoted to security
Very nice letter.
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