2017: "Take your best shot bucko."
Posted on 04/22/2017 6:55:12 AM PDT by Helicondelta
An American Airlines attendant has been suspended after smacking a mother with a baby stroller onboard a domestic flight Friday afternoon, according to passengers.
The woman had just boarded a 2:18 p.m. flight from San Francisco to Dallas when the shocking incident occurred.
A video posted to Facebook by Surian Adyanthaya caught the tumultuous aftermath.
“OMG! AA Flight attendant violently took a stroller from a lady with her baby on my flight, hitting her and just missing the baby,” Adyanthaya captioned the video.
The footage doesn’t catch the moment when the flight attendant allegedly struck the woman, but the atmosphere in the cabin gets tense as a man steps in to defend her.
“Hey bud, you do that to me and I’ll knock you flat,” the man says to the attendant as the distraught woman stands to the side clutching her baby, with tears streaming down her face.
“You stay out of this,” the attendant fires back.
The man then takes a step forward and the attendant immediately turns confrontational.
“Hit me, c’mon, bring it on!” the attendant shouts.
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folks who think they are immune to following the rules.
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Where did they get that concept?
2017: "Take your best shot bucko."
>>Don’t think so. You make the charge, it’s up to you to show that it’s true. Otherwise..<<
No, I said if HE were to bring some sort of libel suit he would have to prove he was not drunk. You (or someone - I am not going to backtrack) said I could be sued (or something similar). If such a thing were to happen, the burden would be on him to show a) validity and b) damages.
I am trying to be clear. I certainly didn’t change the words of my post after posting them.
>>So, now you would have us believe that, even though you can’t spend even a modest amount of time reading the whole article (and even less ability to comprehend what has been posted) instead of viewing a snippet video on the subject, you’re an EXPERT in diagnosing inebriated people from said video.<<
Deduce what you want. His action match those I have seen in the past (again, 3 million flight miles across over 20 years) of drunk passengers. I never held myself out as an expert, I just opined that he appears to be drunk.
And I have not changed my mind.
You have no idea why the mother is crying? You must have missed the part of the witness accounts that said the male stewardess hit her in the forehead with the stroller. Take a look at the huge red mark on her head.
Now you have an idea as to why she was crying.
Exactly. It bet that she is a terrorist. /sarc
I saw an article last week about our culture now becoming obligated to be outraged for at least one reason or another.
>>You have no idea why the mother is crying? You must have missed the part of the witness accounts that said the male stewardess hit her in the forehead with the stroller. Take a look at the huge red mark on her head.
Now you have an idea as to why she was crying.<<
Seemed overmuch to me, but flying with kids is pretty stressful.
The article in the OP is very sketchy. Someone posted one with more details and that helps some.
Little (bald) mans syndrome.
I agree that strollers are to be checked as luggage but if she is a first time flyer she may not have known this. Irregardless how did she get it past the checkin attendant and the greeting attendant at the plane’s door? Sounds like a string of failures on AA’s part climaxed with atrocious customer relations skills to rectify the situation.
"but I wonder if she’s a mule and there are drugs stashed in the stroller. (She’s traveling to South America...Venezuela I think.)
and that the man who stepped up to help was
"macho-man clearly drunk passenger".
Pretty vivid imagination you have there. You should be writing fantasy stories. Maybe we, based on the kind of criteria you use, could conclude that you are delusional.
>>So, let me get this straight. On this thread alone you’ve laid claim that the VICTIM (the woman with the kids)
“but I wonder if she’s a mule and there are drugs stashed in the stroller. (She’s traveling to South America...Venezuela I think.)<<
I didn’t say that. That wasn’t my post you are quoting.
>>”macho-man clearly drunk passenger”.
Pretty vivid imagination you have there. You should be writing fantasy stories. Maybe we, based on the kind of criteria you use, could conclude that you are delusional.<<
YMMV. Maybe loud, belligerent and violent is normal in your world. Especially about something that is really not your business.
But I love how a view that differs from yours is “delusional.” Now, who is it that belittles views that differ from their orthodoxy? Anyone? Bueller?
>>I agree that strollers are to be checked as luggage but if she is a first time flyer she may not have known this. Irregardless how did she get it past the checkin attendant and the greeting attendant at the plane’s door? Sounds like a string of failures on AA’s part climaxed with atrocious customer relations skills to rectify the situation.
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It is an echo of what REALLY went wrong on the UA flight. In that case, if they were going to make room (for whatever reason which is a separate discussion), they should have made those provisions BEFORE BOARDING. Deciding to take people out of their seats was a really, really bad decision and created a problem that did not have to occur.
Likewise, I don’t think I have ever seen a stroller actually allowed on board. They are almost always tagged and gate-checked before boarding or for things like twins (as in this case) for the stroller to be tagged at the gate then checked at the plane’s door.
This just didn’t need to happen. Our “hero” made matters worse, but in the end the FA is supposed to be the one who stays cool and not escalate. A distressed crying passenger should get comfort and calm, not an FA unloading on her and other customers.
>> However, you continue to characterize the man who stepped forward to protect the woman as drunk when you have absolutely no evidence of that being the case except conjecture.<<
Guilty as charged. In my book if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck.
And he was out of line and not anybody’s “hero.” Again IMVHO.
“Accommodate this passenger at all costs.”
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Yup. “Trickle-down customer service” does work!
Might want to check that belief with your attorney =>
In the common law of libel, the claimant has the burden only of proving that the statement was made by the defendant, and that it was defamatory. These things are generally relatively easy to prove. The claimant is not required to prove that the statement was false. Instead, proving the truth of the statement is an affirmative defence available to the defendant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law
Some strollers fold up and fit in the overheads; sometimes the airline collects them and puts them in baggage last so the parents can get them when deplaning. As far as long walks go, where do you fly? County airports? I have to walk a mile I think to get to baggage.
>>In the common law of libel, the claimant has the burden only of proving that the statement was made by the defendant, and that it was defamatory.<<
Maybe, maybe not. It is more ambiguous than that when you look at the actual law, especially state by state.
Of course, this was expressed as an opinion and there is no damage, so it is all rather moot.
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