Posted on 04/22/2017 2:13:05 AM PDT by Pinkbell
Link only per guidelines:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-julian-assange-wikileaks-response-a7696326.html
I still don’t understand how the USA can arrest him.
He is not an American citizen and so he is not subject to our laws. Plus, he has not committed any crimes on our soil.
This is worrisome “one world” stuff. If everyone on the planet is subject to the laws of the USA then the people who claim everyone has a right be here (legally or not) have a stronger case.
If that is the case, and everyone on the planet is essentially subject to our laws, then the ‘one worlders’ have a stronger case. If everyone must abide by USA laws then they should be under US legal protection as well and we have an obligation to go around the world protecting people.
I don’t agree with it.
If someone harms a US citizen that is a bit different. Still, the country of origin should prosecute them or else we retaliate against that country in some way.
I don’t think Assange came to the USA.
Now you are being silly. Extraterritorial jurisdiction doesn't mean that everyone is subject to US laws. Why don't you read this and get better informed:
It doesn't matter. Neither did OBL or Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Guccifer.
No.
Well to expand my opinion , those exposing CORRUPTION are worthy of being called heroes. They should strive do so in a way which is unlikely to cause irreparable harm to innocent persons.
Assange doesn’t fit that definition.
Pretty sure assange did seriously hurt the dhimmicrats most of all.And there is still the “not a US citizen” detail.
No, he hurt our national security interests most of all. You don't seem to have a clue as to what was released in the almost million documents of State Department cables and memoranda and the CIA software information.
And there is still the “not a US citizen” detail.
How nonsensical. What does his citizenship have to do with it? OBL was not a citizen? El Chapo was not a citizen. Get better informed.
That is just an opinion.
Also in it, it doesn’t include any of the offenses Assange is supposedly guilty of.
If there is an extradition treaty, & that country’s government chooses its in their interest to honor it, or they’re defeated in a conflict and we are the “deciding” power. A lot of if’s !
Any way I am talking about the espionage laws.
Try asking for the extradition of the head of Russia’s FSB, China’s external intelligence service even an “ally” like France, the DGSE spies on us. They task their agents to go after US government & private secrets. These foreign origin “taskings” if acted upon break our laws. Assange would be in that role “director of a service”; I doubt if there is a paper trail. The stronger case is probably illegally receiving US property. Even then I doubt if the Bolivians would care to be helpful.
"Although the crimes over which the United States has extraterritorial jurisdiction may be many, so are the obstacles to their enforcement. For both practical and diplomatic reasons, criminal investigations within another country require the acquiescence, consent, or preferably the assistance, of the authorities of the host country. The United States has mutual legal assistance treaties with several countries designed t o formalize such cooperative law enforcement assistance. It has agreements for the same purpose in many other instances.
Cooperation, however, may introduce new obstacles. Searches and interrogations carried out jointly with foreign officials, certainly if they involve Americans, must be conducted within the confines of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. And the Sixth Amendment imposes limits upon the use in American criminal trials of depositions taken abroad.
Also in it, it doesn’t include any of the offenses Assange is supposedly guilty of.
Of course we have obtained the extradition of foreign nationals to the US for trial concerning national security and terrorism.
Why are you so intent on defending Assange who has placed people's lives at risk, including the publishing of names of Afghans cooperating with the US government, and damaged our national security?
I wonder how much our national security interests are in accordance with our Constitution. We have a history of national hypocrisy in poking our noses into other nations’ internal affairs while exhibiting outrage at the very idea anyone should criticize ours. I probably would be even more upset and disgusted if I knew for certain what is and has been done in my name as an American citizen.
Considering the national security agencies seem to be anti-freedom ,at least at the top is a big concern. They say a fish rots from the head. I don’t trust ANY part of the federal government after eight years of obama and a hundred years of Civil Service entrenching .
Did those documents lead to obama and hillary destabilizing the Middle East? or show how they did it instead.
When you leaders are evil should you continue to follow orders and cover up to keep your pension?
I may well not know much but what I do know does not make me happy or trusting of those who say they are taking care of things.
Trump said that about Hillary? No? Oh he said that about Assange.
Wasn't Manning acquitted for the charge of aiding the enemy, for giving secrets to WikiLeaks?
I’m not defending Assange.
I am criticizing the concept of “one world government” and one-worldism in general.
If other non-citizens are subject to our laws then are we not subject to theirs?
Also the whole concept of everyone on the entire planet being de-facto American citizens (which is what the open borders, one worlders promote) makes my citizenship worth nothing. So, I point out the pitfalls where I see them.
Also, if Assange is arrested then why are not our journalists around the world not subject to arrest by other countries if they report on what their governments are up to?
Assange may or may not have placed people’s lives at risk. But so does anyone who reports any information that is deemed so sensitive by a third party. It has to go all the way. It’s not just about him.
Your true colors are showing. You are part of the blame America first. Our blood and treasure have been shed to liberate hundreds of millions. We have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. We are a force for good in this world. You sicken me. I am finished with you.
See my post #39.
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