Posted on 04/18/2017 11:54:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
That the forceful ejection of a United Airlines passenger the Sunday before last proved so newsworthy indicated something thats largely been ignored by the airlines myriad critics and advisers. What happened was news precisely because its so rare.
But for a commentariat prone to turning anecdote into statistic, Uniteds resort to force when it came to properly removing David Dao (more on this in a bit) from one of its airplanes was naturally (to the chattering class, at least) a sign of a tone-deaf airline; one clueless about customer service thanks to a culture within the airline that doesnt prioritize it. Uniteds actions were apparently also a sign that its executives dont understand the auction process that economists whove almost to a man and woman never run a business can apparently design in their sleep. Oh please.
Back to reality, we all know why airlines frequently sell more seats than are physically available. They do so because they have a good sense based on years of statistical analysis of roughly how many no-shows there will be for each flight. The major airlines are plainly good at divining the no-show count as evidenced by travel journalist Gary Leffs stats in USA Today revealing that, Out of over 600 million passengers boarding major U.S. airlines in 2015, half a million didnt have seats. Most of those voluntarily gave up their seats. Leff adds that the latter explains why a mere 46,000 passengers were actually involuntarily denied boarding in 2015, a rate of 0.09%, according to Leffs calculations. Again, Daos ejection was news precisely because what happened almost never does.
Despite this, economists have as mentioned used Uniteds alleged error to showcase their presumed worth. You see, economists claim to solve problems. Crunching numbers in their cubicles free of the pressures that concern those who actually run businesses, they come up with solutions for those businesses.
Case in point is Robert Samuelson, resident economist at the Washington Post. Though he acknowledges that there are lots of public policy problems that cannot be easily solved, he contends that Fixing airline overbooking is not one of them. Samuelsons solution is for airlines to consult another economist who has largely spent his adult years contemplating the many great problems businesses face from Harvards leafy campus. According to Samuelson, Greg Mankiw has a plan for the airlines. Here it is:
Make the airlines pay when they overbook. When they do, they should fully bear the consequences. They should be required (by government regulation) to keep raising the offered compensation until they get volunteers to give up their seats," writes Mankiw. "If $800 does not work, then try $1,600 or $8,000."
Samuelson adds that the professor in Mankiw is "sure volunteers will appear as the price rises." Samuelson agrees with the professor, but would tweak his proposed imposition of force on businesses by requiring that all the bumped passengers receive the highest payment.
Of course the problem for Samuelson and Mankiw, along with countless other economists awoken by Uniteds alleged error, is that airlines have long been doing what they propose. We know this because airlines regularly oversell flights, only for them to offer rising rates of compensation to reserved passengers assuming they dont have enough seats. Sorry economists, airlines have long employed the auction process that has oddly given your profession its day in the sun.
As for the proposed regulations offered up by economists mostly untouched by the real world, theyre passing strange simply because economists generally pay lip service to the truism that theres no such thing as a free good. But in demanding federal compensation rules as Samuelson, Mankiw et al are, they act as though the compensation will be paid by 'someone else.' Back to reality, assuming the federal imposition of highly generous compensation for bumped passengers, this will reveal itself either through reduced seat availability for consumers, much higher prices for the consumers in search of low-priced fares, or both. Well-heeled economists presumably dont consider this truth simply because their air travel is likely not of the supersaver variety.
Regarding Dao, its well known at this point that the flight hed booked a ticket for wasnt oversold as much as United wanted to transport four crew members to Kentucky in order to staff a flight the next day. So that the airline could serve many more passengers, it bumped Dao, along with three other willing customers. And while PR mavens can fight among themselves about the brand implications of Uniteds actions vis-à-vis Dao, its worth pointing out that the airline did the right thing in removing the obnoxious passenger from the plane.
Lest we forget, a purchase of an airline ticket, particularly a supersaver ticket, is not a guaranteed reservation in the traditional, contract sense. A supersaver ticket is low-priced precisely because such a fare might be bumped albeit rarely based on a lack of seats. In Daos case he didnt have a reservation as much as hed booked the strong possibility of flying when he wanted to. United was correct in removing him much as any business would be correct in removing from its premises any individual engaged in the act of taking. The seat was Uniteds to allocate, not something owned by Dao.
About this, readers can rest assured that Uniteds most frequent passengers, as in the ones that generate the most revenue for the airline, are the least likely to be bumped. For members of the commentariat to defend Daos right to a seat is for those same members to reject the property rights of businesses. Federal regulations imposed on businesses regularly ignore property rights, and because they do costs for their customers rise to reflect government disdain for property.
The economist in Samuelson concludes that Making airlines pay more for overbooking would, almost certainly, make them more careful in their scheduling, while also more adequately compensating inconvenienced passengers. Its a nice thought from the offices of the Washington Post, but if its so simple as Samuelson suggests, why the need for governmental force? Samuelson never considered the latter, and realistically didnt consider business and economic realities much at all in penning his piece in which he explained to the airlines how they should operate, sans irony.
But for-profit businesses dont need the help of economists largely unfamiliar with business or profits. As evidenced by how airlines regularly and seamlessly handle the good, pro-consumer strategy of overbooking, theyre already well aware of how to handle passenger overflow. The problem isnt the airlines, but an economics commentariat ever eager to turn whats singular into a statistic.
-- John Tamny is editor of RealClearMarkets, a Senior Fellow in Economics at Reason Foundation, and a senior economic adviser to Toreador Research and Trading
So, you are homophilic?
Again. Ny post for one. Dao is a queer, a mental illness. He sold prescriptions to meet up with another coprophiliac to vector diseases by fecal-oral transmission. This makes him a drug dealer and a huckster. Its a federal crime. How many times? , you can contact a bud with access to his criminal record.
‘So, you are homophilic?’
You are trolling. I’ve answered this question twice.
Here’s the question you haven’t answered once. Where did you get the following information:
‘The passenger hauled off a United flight is a lung doctor with ... a history of angry outbursts’
Do you know what a lie is? Do you know what a smear is? Did you make this charge about angry outbursts up out of whole cloth, or do you have a source?
Posting lies is not a conservative value. Liberals lie and smear. Conservatives are honest and tell the truth.
Look it up yourself and stop with the name calling—this is an adult forum. Are you from Massachusetts or what? Nobody is lying about your deep interest in the male queer with a record of felonies.
Not content to lie about and smear Dao, now you are attempting to lie about and smear me.
When will you stop with this disgusting behavior?
You missed the point.
The problem is you used the word “seller”, no one sold anyone anything. There was no exchange of possession.
“BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the writer of this needs to look and see the 10s of MILLIONS of lost revenues, and Brand Value that United has lost over this... This writer is an IDIOT.”
So, you’re saying there are now empty seats where there was occupied seats? If so, it would be you that is the idiot for making a false claim.
“Soon, some of them would be throwing their friends and relatives off the plane for profit. “
Not to mention the public would know the rule and refuse to leave until some customary price, say $10,000, was reached.
You. Missed. The. Point.
Public concensus is not an argument. I never called it an argument.
I called it a ***problem.***
For whom is it a problem?
Not for Dao; public sentiment is vastly, wildly, overwhelmingly in his favor.
The party with the ***problem*** is United. Granted, they are in grovel mode, and for quite some time each day brought a fresh apology. (Munoz even met with a delegation of Chinese, to try and persuade them United isn’t racist.)
Despite the groveling, United still has a problem. The public perceives them to be goon-thugs, who would rather put an elderly man in the hospital than negotiate with a willing couple. That’s a *problem* United will be saddled with for some time to come.
As well they should be.
14 CFR 250.9 - Written explanation of denied boarding compensation and boarding priorities, and verbal notification of denied boarding compensation.
0 to 1 hour arrival delay No compensation.
1 to 2 hour arrival delay 200% of one-way fare (but no more than $675).
Over 2 hours arrival delay 400% of one-way fare (but no more than $1,350).
People should read the law. Laws are written in English.
“The goons called by United didnt have the authority to arrest anybody.”
To a 12 year old, maybe, but we adults know better.
“All the Freepers here arguing UAL was right miss the point that it could happen to any of us tomorrow “
Sure it could, but do you really think the sheeple that allow strip searches by the TSA will lift a finger about this topic?
“Being in the industry Ive read that and it goes back to when people were booking seats on different flights but not actually paying for them until they arrive at the check-in desk so airlines were flying with empty non-revenue seats.”
However, if airlines sold seats and made them non-refundable the people would bitch even louder.
“An Airline does not have an absolute right to kick a passenger of off their plane.”
Actually, they do, and it is you that has not learned a thing.
“Their actions were legal, but stupid. Both parties handled this as poorly as humanly possible.”
Absolutely. United could have simply upped the ante to get another passenger off the plane or had that last remaining flight crew take a later flight. ANYTHING but eject a passenger.
Dao, of course, was a typical liberal child that threw a temper tantrum.
They do. There are three categories of seats to purchase and the cheapest ones are non-refundable. You can buy refundable seats but they’re the premium ones.
“Dao had to see patients at the hospital at 8am the next morning. He faced professional repercussions if he failed to make his rounds.”
While, child, that’s why professionals don’t cut their flights so close to such responsibilities.
Excellent William’s quote.
Again, you’re thinking the same crowd that stood in line to get strip searched by the TSA are going to lift a single finger about this issue.
I know that. I meant if the airlines made all seats pay-up-front and non-refundable. They people would scream for alternatives. Well, that was the way it was and the customer got their “super saver” fares. I am old enough to remember when that switch happened and everyone thought the customer was an idiot for it. The customer was lured in with the idea that an empty seat would be sold cheap, but with strict conditions. We all knew those conditions would become normal.
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