I think he was the victor. There’s basically a zero percent chance he’s losing this one.
David Koresh shouldn't have shot back at those "search warrant" servers either.
ML/NJ
He will be much richer and United will be be much poorer, cops loosing jobs. How did the Dr loose?
If he wins we all lose.
So if he was under arrest, how did he manage to get back on the plane?
Where were the arresting officers when he was stumbling around all dazed and bloody?
Oh yes they most certainly do. They have the right to quit at any time they feel the order given to them is wrong or unconstitutional.
They do not have to go door to door collecting weapons if they were given the order to do so. Like wise they did not have to beat up someone who paid for their seat five months ago. The choice was always theirs to make.
The police are humans who have a free will and the ability to make decisions, if they do something they know is wrong, under the guise of "just following orders", they are still doing wrong. They do not have to, but they want to, perhaps for 30 pieces of silver, it makes no difference, cops are not robots.
I don’t half to follow an unlawful order from the police. For example, if I’m in a public place and taking photos, they can’t order me to stop taking photos. (assuming I’m not hindering their operation)
This is a by product of laws not being enforced equally for all.
This dude figured he could choose not to follow the law in the form of police instructions to leave.
Now imo he’s going to be very rich due to this incident.
... Just wanted to say that about after-effects of selective law enforcement....
That they let him back on bloodied, dazed and confused requiring dental work and maybe some plastic surgery demonstrates they had no real imperative and maybe not the authority.
He may have screamed like a bitch but, pretty sure they get bitch slapped by him and are forced to eat a shit sandwich.
The CEO’s statements afterward and actions such as compensation for all who flew that flight that day Arndt gonna help anyone but, the man they tortured.
If I had been on that flight and saw the old guy getting the business I would have given up my seat. That fact that NOBODY on that flight did that says a lot about how selfish our society has become.
The real story is how none of the other passenger would be willing to give up their seat for the old guy. Anyone of them could have made this painful situation stop at anytime. Nobody did. That is the real story.
First of all the “police” neither told him he was under arrest nor that he could be arrested. They were simply acting as a goon squad for the airline, illegally called in to remove him from the plane.
Question is how many times has this happened, with or without violence? While his present attorneys stated they are not making this a class action (as his individual damages will be far more than as a member of a class), somewhere I’m sure a law firm is preparing the groundwork for a class action by other passengers involuntarily removed from a United plane after boarding. Other actions are probably brewing for this particular flight - “intentional infliction of emotional distress” by the gate agent telling the passengers the flight would not leave unless four people volunteered or were taken off involuntarily for their $800 offer, and the ensuing violence witnessed by many close up.
Analogies have been made to Rosa Parks. While not racial in context, the analysis is quite appropriate. Someone finally stood up to illegal actions by the airline and the “police.” Once the passengers had boarded, the airlines are very limited in reasons why they can remove a paying passenger. At a minimum, this case has finally brought the “fine print” out for open discussion and analysis so many people understand their rights - and likely a lot of training is going on with “police” that may be called by an airline to remove someone. If the real police had actually been brought in, they likely would have told United to solve their problem themselves, recognizing arrest was not in the cards.
Bilello needs to pull his hotel out of his alpha and substitute the facts for his BS.
The author unfortunately sums up a major problem with modern police training and attitudes. While from a practical point of view complying with armed people is almost always a good idea, it doesn't help the police, or our nation, to have their authority be based on their likelihood to get violent. That puts them in the same category as thugs, bank robbers, and criminals of all sorts. None of the guys I know who are police officers signed up to be rent-a-thugs.
What an ass. It is the job of law enforcement to ensure they are acting within the Constitution and the law. The Chicago airport police had neither on their side in this case.
We have gotten too far away from that concept.
Why on earth were those four employees so valuable?
Was it a life or death situation?
STFU, Joseph Bilello, you effing Nazi punk.
DAO vs United seems to be the story that refuses to go away.
We are now 6 days into the story and it remains in sole first place as the most commented upon story at Free Republic.
This was a dumb and pointless article.
The writer confuses obeying a lawful order with an unlawful order. Submitting to any and all “authority” at all times gets you a trip to a gulag or a gas chamber.