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Police Undefeated Streak Continues After Inevitable Takedown Of United Airlines Passenger
Townhall.com ^ | April 15, 2017 | Joseph Bilello

Posted on 04/15/2017 4:55:16 AM PDT by Kaslin

Police: “You’re under arrest. Put your hands behind your back!”

Suspect: “Don’t touch me! I didn’t do anything!”

Police: “Oh, you didn’t? Sorry about that. My mistake. Off you go.”

That was a hypothetical conversation that has never occurred.

Do we really want to live in a society where individuals get to choose whether or not they feel like complying with the police at any given time?

In the mid-1960’s, The Bobby Fuller Four fought the law, and the law won. Several years later, John Cougar Mellencamp reminded us that when he fights authority, authority always wins. And the same is true for nearly every American who tried to fight the law before, after and in-between.

When authorities confront an individual, either to place them under arrest, ask them to vacate an area or, whatever the situation may be, and the individual refuses to comply, there can be only two possible outcomes. The authorities can either say, “Okay, you win. Sorry to bother you. Carry on and have a nice day”. Or, they can physically force the individual to comply. And the former never, ever happens.

By now, all of America is familiar with the story of David Dao, the United Airlines passenger who police officers dragged off a flight from Chicago to Louisville this past Sunday after he refused to surrender his seat to members of a flight crew.

After overbooking a flight, United asked for volunteers to give up their seats to make room for crew members in exchange for $1,000. When no one volunteered, United randomly selected several passengers to leave the plane, including Dao. When he refused, he was forcibly removed from the flight by officers working for the Chicago Department of Aviation. Video of the incident ignited a social media frenzy with an overwhelming majority lending their support to Mr. Dao and condemning the airline and police.

Whether United Airlines, the Chicago Aviation Police officers or David Dao handled the situation properly is open for debate. What is not open for debate is that once a person refuses to comply with police, physical altercation, perhaps resulting in bodily injury is inevitable.

Nearly every incident that sparks national outrage, accusations of police brutality, protests, riots and the creation of organized groups like Black Lives Matter has one thing in common - someone initially refused to comply with the orders of law enforcement.

Mr. Dao may have been completely justified in his outrage. The police response may have been completely inappropriate. But we do not have the luxury of deciding that we do not wish to comply with orders from law enforcement, even if we are completely in the right. And the police do not have the luxury of neglecting to enforce their own orders because someone emphatically expresses their desire to be left alone. Your innocence, mistreatment, inconvenience or potential police misconduct is something to be dealt with at a later time. The subsequent legal process can vindicate the victim and punish the wrongdoers. But during the initial confrontation, you must comply. And if you choose to go a different route, you will lose every single time, at least for the moment.

Sometimes, the aesthetics of a police encounter caught on video do not shine the best light on law enforcement. There is the perception that excessive, perhaps completely unwarranted force was deployed. The proper handling of any physical encounter involving the police is subjective. And video doesn’t always tell the whole story.

Protecting citizens from unwarranted abuses by the state is one of the cornerstones of a free society. It is critical that we hold law enforcement accountable for any misconduct and demand the most fair and humane treatment from the police and the justice system. But before we rush to condemn the police every time they use what some perceive to be excessive force, we must ask ourselves what alternatives did they have? If they ask you to do something and you refuse, they will then tell you to do it. If you still refuse, they must make you do it by force or we cease to be a nation of laws.

Mr. Dao has won in the court of public opinion regarding his experience with United Airlines. There is a good chance that he will win in a court of law. There is also a good chance that some of the officers involved will be the ultimate losers in this ordeal. But in the brief few moments following the request for him to vacate his seat on the airplane, there was a zero percent chance that David Dao would come out the victor.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; aviation; daviddao; donutwatch; police; ual; unitedairlines
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To: CodeToad

His boarding pass wasn’t revoked, since there was no legal trigger to revoke the pass.


61 posted on 04/15/2017 8:05:14 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: Kaslin
I put the blame on the greedy agents who overbooked the flight. If they hadn’t this would not have happened.

It wasn't an overbooking. It was making room at the last minute for operational airline staff. The gate agent was probably going by the UA book. Instead of upping the compensation, the agent called security to resolve the dispute.

62 posted on 04/15/2017 8:06:15 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Kaslin

Except a private airline is not supposed to use law enforcement for non security issues.


63 posted on 04/15/2017 8:13:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kaslin

What you are saying is that even illegal orders MUST be followed?
How did that work out for the troops at the Nuremberg trials?
“A policeman’s job is only easy in a police state.”
Orson Welles


64 posted on 04/15/2017 8:57:28 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: mulligan

“If he wins we all lose.”

Who’s “we,” you got worms? The rest of us “we” will win when Dr. Dao gets his multi-million dollar settlement from both United and the City of Chicago, and the three cops are doing a couple of years in the slammer for felonious assault.


65 posted on 04/15/2017 9:15:08 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

United forcing off paying customers to make room for employees who “need” to be ferried somewhere is disgusting. They have one choice in the future, offer enough money that someone is guaranteed to volunteer.


66 posted on 04/15/2017 10:30:10 AM PDT by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: Kaslin

He paid for a ticket, which is a contract that United had the legal obligation to fulfill to deliver him safely to his destination, they broke that contract so they could put an employee on that flight in place of the customer they had a contract with.

He wasn’t approached by police because he broke any law but to accommodate the airline that not only breached the contract they agreed to with the customer, but also because they were so incompetent they sold tickets to customers who were going to get bumped.

How hard is it to schedule employee transits so paying customers don’t get bumped? Answer: not hard at all. United was negligent. Police should have said it is your problem United this man has broken no law and you have a contract to transport him safely to his destination, get your act together!

In the end this policy of neglect and total disregard for their passengers will not only cost them the lawsuit award but lots of lost business. I won’t fly United ever again.

They should try to settle out of court because the longer this is news the more customers United loses. Maybe they will go bankrupt, what a dumb a** policy!

I hope United loses big and the cop gets sued and it helps to convince other cowboy cops you can’t treat law abiding or any non violent person with this kind of excessive violence. A shiny tin badge does not give anyone the right to break the law including assaulting people.


67 posted on 04/15/2017 1:16:09 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: CodeToad
Explain this ‘license’ you speak of that didn’t exist.

No need to. United's future actions and the settlement they pay will say all that needs to be said about the situation.

And "revoking" somebody's boarding pass for no valid reason doesn't erase the rights they had under their contract with the airline, and FAA regulations.

68 posted on 04/15/2017 5:24:16 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kaslin
I put the blame on the greedy agents who overbooked the flight.

Except they didn't overbook the flight. They just decided that it would be better to kick four paying passengers off of the flight to re-position some crew members. It was about greed, somebody at United thought the convenience of their crew was more important than their paying passengers.

69 posted on 04/15/2017 5:28:15 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: vette6387
The slammer for the slammers?

Still waiting for the 3 officers' names to be released. Considering the digging into Dr Dao's past, all 3 of those boys better be squeaky clean.

70 posted on 04/16/2017 1:12:14 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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