” What makes you think jeffersondem et al. will listen to you, when they won’t even listen to the leaders of the Confederacy, who told everyone at the time that they were seceding from the Union in order to preserve slavery? “
Good point!
I’ve never seen a pro-Confederate change his/her mind here, but I still think it’s important to defend the facts whenever necessary.
You cannot reason a person out of a position that they weren't reasoned into.