US intelligence intercepted communications between Syrian military and chemical experts

CNN ^

[SecAmndmt]

Using your logic, the Branch Davidians, who were CS gassed by the feds (who were never punished by a foreign power) are not “our people”, because they have a belief system which is unpopular?

[jonrick46]

They have satellite videos of the entire incident on replay. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had videos of the aircraft taking off from the runway. I can imagine President Trump in the situation room saying, “Could you play that back again?” I want to see that number on the fuselage. Pause it when it appears.”

Satellites are watching Syria like a microscope.

[BootsOfEscaping]

Wasn’t it revealed that General Hasouri was the pilot of the SU-22 that dropped the Sarin?

[Paladin2]

H->! did not believe the BDs to be her people.

[jonrick46]

Any evidence our intelligence has of the Sarin gas incident can’t be revealed in detail. We don’t want to reveal our intelligence capabilities. Any nation would examine what we had and devise counter-intelligence methods. Someone like Kim Jong-un would be able to launch a nuke on Japan undetected.

[Terry Mross]

It’s CNN and they quote a “senior U.S. official”. That qualifies as fake news.

[jonrick46]

I am sure they had pilot communications data mined from satellites picking off every electromagnetic transmission in the entire nation of Syria. We probably have conversations between Bashar al-Assad and his mistress. Asma would probably kill him if she knew what he was up to.

[Garth Tater]

If US intelligence has damning Syrian communication intercepts, Trump could do a Reagan and present the intercepts to the UN as Reagan did when KAL 007 was shot down by a Soviet SU-15 fighter interceptor.

That is what I wanted to hear, and was expecting to hear, coming from the Trump administration shortly after the attack on the Syrian airbase was ordered. That attack put a lot distance between President Trump and many of his supporters. A rift that did not have to be.

The only proof of a sarin gas attack we had seen at the time of the retaliatory attack had come from the islamic jihadis - and we know that they lie, falsify evidence and stage death scenes. The lack of evidence presented to us by the administration persisted for days. This rift among the Trump supporters (and the rift between Freepers) is largely due to this lack of information coming from our side. That didn't have to be and allowing it to happen was a mistake. A big one.

[Lil Flower]

So if all this is true, why in the hell didn’t we bomb that plane before it ever left the airstrip? And I predicate that on a big “if.”

Our leaders can’t keep taking the high road and lament over babies being gassed if we allowed it to happen.

Again, “bigly if.”

[BootsOfEscaping]

I hate CNN but they are reporting just that - pilot comms.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/12/politics/us-intelligence-syrian-chemical-weapons/index.html

[BootsOfEscaping]

Simple: they collect the data, its not being monitored real time. Just like the NSA does with all data (emails, texts, cell phone convos ect) - its collected and stored until such time they want to access it for some reason.

[sargon]

The Secretary of Defense discussed the fact that there was no doubt as to the culpability of the Syrians in this attack. He said he had seen the inte.

At the time, they showed prima facie evidence of this attack by the Assad regime. You're now referring to additional details that have been released (declassified)—the polit communications.

At the very beginning, releasing that level of detail was absolutely unnecessary. Better to be prudent.

So "big mistake", my ass.

The Trump administration did precisely what was prudent at the time, including providing adequate evidence, and the only "big mistake" is the one the naysayers made when they jumped to conclusions and didn't trust this administration in the first place.

It's ridiculous to think the administration should have released every single intelligence detail right away—such as this one.

The hand-wringers are proven wrong again, and when they are, suddenly it's all about the "big mistake" the administration made by not releasing sensitive information immediately, and a "rift" that thereby resulted.

Bull. The only "rift" was created by the doubting Thomases who disregarded the initial evidence which was perfectly reasonable.

Next time, don't imply that the Secretary of Defense and the President are liars, and maybe there will be less of a "rift".

Or, alternately, maybe next time the administration should just dump all their intelligence immediately and throw caution to the wind...

[TomasUSMC]

A little birdie told me Assad woke up with a horse head in his bed.

[Sontagged]

"From the CNN article:

US officials have said that there is "no doubt" that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is responsible for the attack.

The "no doubt" part refers to an article that is just as non-explaining as the posted article.

The US did not know prior to the attack it was going to happen, the official emphasized. The US scoops up such a large volume of communications intercepts in areas like Syria and Iraq, the material often is not processed unless there is a particular event that requires analysts to go back and look for supporting intelligence material.

Yeah, that sounds pretty definitive.

So far there are no intelligence intercepts that have been found directly confirming that Russian military or intelligence officials communicated about the attack. The official said the likelihood is the Russians are more careful in their communications to avoid being intercepted.

This is the kind of thing that passes for concrete intel?

They must think we are real idiots."

Globalists' Hegelian mindgames, a "meme-repeat" of the never definitive Bush WMDs in Iraq, and Bay of Pigs before that.

I wonder what big State secret they told Trump to get him to 180 on this sort of thing?

[Sontagged]

http://www.naturalnews.com/041883_Syria_chemical_weapons_sodium_fluoride.html

Syrian chem attack in 2013 was...

wait for it...

sodium fluoride.

[onyx]

The intercepts were part of an immediate review of all intelligence in the hours after the attack to confirm responsibility for the use of chemical weapons in an attack in northwestern Syria, which killed at least 70 people. US officials have said that there is "no doubt" that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is responsible for the attack.

The US did not know prior to the attack it was going to happen, the official emphasized.
The US scoops up such a large volume of communications intercepts in areas like Syria and Iraq, the material often is not processed unless there is a particular event that requires analysts to go back and look for supporting intelligence material.

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[CivilWarBrewing]

Apparently, CNN is getting their information from the same source as President Trump: THE DEEP STATE.

[Sontagged]

The debate I want to see is Steve Bannon devouring little Bill Mitchell.

Where was that obsequious flatterer during Tea Party, anyway?

We have bets going Mitchell’s a Bush shill... ‘cause this is all going to blow up like Bush’s Iraq WMDs in Trump’s face. Or Bay of Pigs for JFK (odd how it only comes out so many years later that HW Bush was CIA and at the Bay of Pigs)

[Garth Tater]

The Secretary of Defense discussed the fact that there was no doubt as to the culpability of the Syrians in this attack. He said he had seen the inte.

At the time, they showed prima facie evidence of this attack by the Assad regime.

Prima facie evidence - A fact presumed to be true unless it is disproved.

Dispositive evidence - Information or evidence that unqualifiedly brings a conclusion to a controversy.

We should have seen dispositive evidence of a sarin attack. A soil analysis. Autopsy results. Survivors blood tests. Communications intercepts. We were left hanging for 4 days with nothing but evidence of a Syrian jet making an attack on Idlib. No proof of sarin being used. And several pieces of evidence pointing to the falsehood of the attack. Dead children with rosie red cheeks when sarin kills by suffocation. Emergency workers touching victims with their bare hands. If this had been handled better there never would have been the rift between President Trump and his supporters.

It's ridiculous to think the administration should have released every single intelligence detail right away

And there you go again putting words in my mouth that I did not say. I said we should have seen some evidence of a sarin gas attack from our side and not only from the jihadis.

Next time, don't imply that the Secretary of Defense and the President are liars,

I didn't imply that they were liars, I said that they failed to present sufficient proof of a sarin gas attack in the days following the retaliatory strike and that that caused the rift. Which it did.

[Freedom56v2]

“Hand wringers” I see that in a lot of your posts.

Why do you have such a problem with people being concerned about the actions of their government?

Bad things happen to people who don’t question their leaders...