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Syria war: Tillerson to press Russia over Assad support
BBC News ^ | 4/12/2017 | BBC

Posted on 04/12/2017 1:12:04 AM PDT by Spiridon

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is to urge Russia to stop supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad during talks in Moscow.

The visit comes amid rising tensions over last week's chemical weapons attack in Syria and US air strikes on a Syrian airbase launched in response.

Russia has condemned the US strikes and stood by Syria, its long-time ally.

President Trump has made clear the US had no further plans there and was "not going into" that country's civil war........

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump
Vladimir Putin has said there will another staged 'gas attack' in Damasacus itself that will end up being blamed on the Syrian government.

Lets hope we don't have any repeats of what happened last week as in fake attacks leading to any military action by the USA.

Deal with ISIS and North Korea. Stay out of Syria's Civil War.

1 posted on 04/12/2017 1:12:04 AM PDT by Spiridon
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To: Spiridon

Yea sure the Ruskys are going to leave their naval and air bases plus their oil deals the hands of who ?

Work to get a stabilized federated state that is no threat to most involved would be a more realistic approach.


2 posted on 04/12/2017 2:03:34 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Spiridon

I would support the overthrow of Assad on the condition that all the refugees have to go back home.

They can also take refugees from Africa and Asia. Heck, the US can also contribute a few million Mexicans. It’s about time that the Middle East becomes “multi-cultural.” The US and Europe shouldn’t suffer alone!


3 posted on 04/12/2017 2:19:50 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Spiridon

I would support the overthrow of Assad on the condition that all the refugees have to go back home.

They can also take refugees from Africa and Asia. Heck, the US can also contribute a few million Mexicans. It’s about time that the Middle East becomes “multi-cultural.” The US and Europe shouldn’t suffer alone!


4 posted on 04/12/2017 2:20:50 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: mosesdapoet

Cooler heads and some negotiations plus the disarming of the Al Qaeda fighters the Saudis and Qataris imported into the country would be good.


5 posted on 04/12/2017 2:21:51 AM PDT by Spiridon
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To: Spiridon

A powerful message was delivered. “Join the U.S [in principles] or side with the Iranians, Hezbollah and Assad”.

President Trump will be the most consequentially positive President since Teddy Roosevelt and well into the future.

A new “square deal”. A functional Bureaucracy. Reasonable social safety nets and well managed and downsized regulatory agencies.


6 posted on 04/12/2017 3:03:15 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: Fhios

Assad rules by birthright. He, like his father, is a mass murderer of Syrians, those he rules. It’s no surprises that putin sides with him and the mad mullahs. He’s of a kindred mind.


7 posted on 04/12/2017 3:27:36 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: elhombrelibre

So I’m lead to believe by the media.

Assad is a non-secular leader, one of the last few. The undermining of Syria started with his father and his intransigence with Israel and the West. Lebanon was destroyed it’s leaders assassinated and simply given over to Hezbollah.

One wonders if the U.S wasn’t undermining Syria for years and fomenting civil war from within, culminating with the so-called Arab Spring that was supposed to depose despot non-secular leaders and install repressive Religious Oligarchies as a replacement.

What better way do globalist advocates have of controlling the freedoms and habits of the general population than forced islamification of Western lifestyles.


8 posted on 04/12/2017 4:16:30 AM PDT by Fhios
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So who are the good non globalists? Obviously, the secular Assad fits your ideal. Would you include the mad mullahs of Iran and possibly the richest man in the world, putin? And since when have the globalists preferred theocracies to secular governments? And if Assad is a secularists and socialist, why would that make him such a swell guy?

Where is the evidence that the US was undermining Syria for years?

9 posted on 04/12/2017 4:25:00 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: Spiridon

Putin also wants a full UN investigation of this chemical attack.


10 posted on 04/12/2017 4:31:08 AM PDT by McGruff (You break it, you bought it)
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To: Spiridon
Our foreign policy has reminded me of Babylon 5 for a while.

"Babylon 5 is our last best hope for peace."

"Why is it called Babylon _5_?"

Trump may not get another chance--he needs to reverse course _now

..Or our ancestors may need to create "America_2_..
11 posted on 04/12/2017 4:31:25 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Where is the evidence that the US was undermining Syria for years?

speculative, not not an unreasonable assumption. Administrations attitudes towards Assad are public knowledge.

So who are the good non globalists?

It's not about good non globalists, it's about good globalist. A good globalist believes globalism is good as long as we're doing the globalizing

And since when have the globalists preferred theocracies to secular governments?

Capitalist globalization would be good, except we've given away most if not all of our precious research. Socialist globalization would use Islamification as a means to control the populationl. Health care costs controlled as over indulgences are curbed. Subjugation of women as second class citizens. Risky sexual behavior punishable by death. In such a system it's easy to spot that the rich simple impose this on the middle class. and the middle classe controls the poor because shit runs downhill.

12 posted on 04/12/2017 6:41:35 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: Fhios

Is putin a globalist or an effective and necessary antidote to the globalists?


13 posted on 04/12/2017 8:24:28 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: Spiridon
It is almost like Rex is playing the role of Russia baiting neocon and Trump is playing the role of sane actor by emphasizing the US will not try to oust Assad. You would almost think that Rex is itching for the ouster of Assad.
14 posted on 04/12/2017 10:06:24 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: elhombrelibre

Like I said, nobody minds being a globalist as long as they’re the ones doing the globalizing.


15 posted on 04/12/2017 12:15:22 PM PDT by Fhios
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To: Fhios

And you are against globalists? You’re against American globalists? Or you’re against putin globalists?


16 posted on 04/12/2017 12:22:47 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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I’m against repetitive questioning when you’ve already been given the answer.

- signing off from this thread.


17 posted on 04/12/2017 12:56:22 PM PDT by Fhios
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To: Spiridon

3. Pliant “Progressives,” Global America-Haters & Obama Apologists are compiling lists of “Unintended Consequences” of the U.S. strike on the base Putin’s patsy Assad used to launch his latest chemical warfare attack. So what? Here is some reality: - Oliver North
http://olivernorth.com/north-points/lessons-learned-from-the-trump-treatment-in-syria


18 posted on 04/12/2017 6:23:58 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Sam Gamgee

I’ve read that Rex Tillerson is even more moderate than the British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, who was reported pushing for sanctions on Russian and Syrian officials.

The British are more dependent on the Saudi $$$$$ teat than we are, I guess.

Trump still has an independent spirit and supporters urging him to back away from confrontation.


19 posted on 04/13/2017 5:02:30 AM PDT by Spiridon
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