Posted on 03/30/2017 6:57:15 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist
"The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!" - Donald Trump
Like I told katar earlier, we don’t know what the heck went on because of all of these closed door meetings. Who has the white hat? Who is being stubborn?
Sunshine would have prevented this.
I agree, we do import drugs now. But I’m thinking ahead — that wall will be built and international drug trafficking into the US will drop to a trickle.
I might be angry with Trump right now, but I do like his attitude about drugs.
Sounds good - Americans should buy only American product.
I dare you to ping the owner of this forum and ask him if he will allow you and your friends to push drug legalization here. Go ahead.
No need to ping Jim - conservative pro-legalization arguments have been appearing on FR for years. But you can ping him if you like.
Could you post a link to one of those threads so we can all read it?
Here’s one from just thee other week with plenty of pro-legalization arguments - starting at #41: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3536054/posts
“You will see that they proscribe government action. Free people are free. You can play with the ISP if you want or not.”
If only ISP service was really a free market. The three ISP providers available to me(phone company, wireless telecommunication company, and cable company) are government regulated franchises. The cable company has an exclusive franchise (i.e. monopoly) granted by the local government. That local authority, as well as the FCC regulates cable service providers.
The provision of telephone and wireless services is regulated by the state and the federal government. The local government is also involved in regulating the placement of cellular towers.
Essentially the provision of ISP services in my community is a oligarchy protected by government regulation.
You are correct that I am free to purchase internet services or not from the three government protected and regulated providers. Since they have protected franchises there is no free market negotiation with these providers, they offer the same terms on a “take it or do without” basis.
If it were a truly free market, without government imposed barriers to competition, I’d buy your argument. However, since the ISP’s operate with government barriers to new competition, which allows them to charge higher prices and bundle undesired services to extract more revenue from captive customers, I suggest it is also reasonable to expect customers to seek new terms from government when the government controlled market fails to provide alternative services or terms.
Government-run healthcare is anything but freedom.
I'm wondering if president Trump is experiencing what many of us have occur in our daily like. I have many friends who disagree with me politically as well as other things. They are my friends, well, probably because they would show up to help me move, a good friend, move a body. Anyhow, there are folks I agree with politically that I don't like personally.
We all know president Trump is not an ideological conservative he is more of a proportionalist which can look like a progressive or pragmatist at times. The difference is that they have an end goal - achieving balance and stability in a lean efficacious working system. When they get there they are going to stop.
I think there are several instructive moments during the campaigns and a repeated theme in his rallies. I will try to connect them together.
He is probably right if we didn't waste so much money on crap we could waste the money on healthcare for everyone and that belief is single payer and that is heretical as that is socialism.
President Trump is not a socialist neither was Cananda's former prime minister Stephen Harper but he managed to clean up lots of their financial problems while having universal coverage on the books. The oil boom helped him too.
I believe president Trump is our first proportionalist President - American(s) First, America is Awesome, America Works - a healthy country.
He definitely thinks differently but it looks like the FC and he were working together closely and it sad to see him go after them rather than try to incorporate his 7 points along with his beliefs while gutting Obamacare. Perhaps thats what he sees himself doing
According to FBI statistics, 40.3% of rapes are solved; what percentage of drug law violations are even detected ... 0.00403%, maybe?
There are a few people here on FR that are lying through their teeth. The HFC is NOT never-Trump, though some did not want him to win the nomination. That is not exactly rare; many here felt the same way. However, most HFC guys did endorse Trump after the nomination, or when it became clear he would win. And none, zero, are currently saying they are "never Trump." If anyone has proof otherwise, post it. Otherwise, you are a liar.
Did the HFC vote for Ryan? Most of them probably. There is no way to actually verify (their membership list is secret). But so did everyone else! The truth is the HFC held their nose and reluctantly voted for Ryan, as they did not want to get into a big speaker fight right before Trump was sworn in. Though I loathe Ryan, I would probably have done the same thing. There were serious discussions behind the scenes of doing it anyway, but they held their noses and voted after Trump indicated he wanted Ryan to stay. But rest assured, Ryan's no friend of the HFC, and vice versa. Blaming the HFC for Ryan being speaker is not just disingenuous, it is a smarmy weasel Sidney Blumenthal pajama-boy type fabrication of the type we despise libs for doing.
The HFC got rid of Boehner.
More below:
Some Truths about the House Freedom Caucus
In before, "The Kochs! The Kochs!!!"
Got rid of Boehner and replaced him with Boehner The Second.
Excellent reply! But still, the government is not collecting and selling your information the ISP is. The fact that the federal government is interfering in a free market does not somehow expand the meaning and definition of the Constitution. As far I can tell ISP monopolies are created at the local level not the Federal. The government interferes in the employment market but it doesn’t stop me from prohibiting your speech while you work for me.
msnbc and fox had munchin(sp?) (glasses short curly hair) as the spokesman for the freedom caucus. You could not ask for a WORSE spokesman. Just his manner, not content, make one never want to vote for him.
inside the beltway is essential a world of private clubs, unending taxpayer funded parties, and social impropriety.
legalizing pot keeps the serfs stoned and the harem interns pliable.
Hard to believe FC wants Obamacare repealed when they voted to fund it, have no repeal bill or plan in 7 years, and when they got what they wanted from Trump to vote Yea they instead voted Nay.
While Trump ended up agreeing to a 3 step repeal and replace is not the best, it is all we could get with this republican party, and it is far better than the nothing we have and are stuck with because of the Nay voters.
Well, I heard Jim Jordan tell Mike Walice, that RYNO allowed no input from other reps before introducing the bill.
IOW, we do know that no conservative free-market ideas were considered.
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