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To: Pinkbell

No offense intended, but that is complete and utter hogwash.

Democrats and socialists did not elect Trump. And the vast majority of those on Obamacare are not conservatives, republicans or Trump voters.

And the media does nothing but lie anyway and will never stop lying even if Trump signs RINOcare. They’ll hate him just as much as ever so don’t count on the media as part of your agenda.

One of his selling points was that he does not rollover for the lying media. He fights,

Repeal Obamacare, build the wall, etc, as stated above and he’s guaranteed a second term and a great place in history.

The one thing you got right is this is a one shot deal. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime to turn this failing country around. Blow it by keeping the hated socialist Obamacare or a Trumpcare replacement and she goes down the tubes.

Media is your worry? They’re drooling to pounce on Trumpcare stories and will run them 24/7.

Full repeal and erase Obama.

FR stands for God, family, country and that includes securing God’s blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. And that includes abiding by the constitution, limited government, states rights, individual rights, free markets.

Those who would rather ignore the above and ignore the constitution and live as a controlled subject under an all powerful, centrally planned, socialist government where the central government takes care of you cradle to grave should post elsewhere. In fact, they should move to Russia, er, no, they’re defending freedom in Russia now. Maybe Cuba or Venezuela or China? North Korea anyone?


43 posted on 03/29/2017 5:55:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Of course the majority of Trump’s voters are conservative, but what put him over the top? It was cracking into the blue wall. There were counties that flipped from blue to red, and people who once supported Obama who voted for Trump. That’s one reason why the media’s racism argument was nonsensical.

http://www.cnbc.com/heres-a-map-of-the-us-counties-that-flipped-to-trump-from-democrats/

The media campaign against Trump has had some success unfortunately, and that’s reflected in his approval rating. If the media covered Trump fairly, I do believe it would be higher. They never will cover him fairly, but Donald Trump breaking his campaign promise would be a godsend for them.

He promised to repeal and replace and said that he was going to take care of people who need it. He never lied. He said this months before the first primary even. It was an interview with Scott Pelley in 2015 where he said that the government would pay for people to have healthcare that couldn’t afford it. He said he was willing to lose votes over it. He won the nomination, though. If people were looking for someone to flat repeal, he was not the guy. The guy would have been Rand Paul or Ted Cruz (who both would have had some replacement as Paul does now). People voted for him taking him at his word.

The reality is that there are people who voted for Trump on Obamacare right now because they don’t have an alternative. This is one of many such articles and reports out there and only a small taste of what you will get if there is no replacement:

http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/12/13/13848794/kentucky-obamacare-trump

There are millions enrolled under Obamacare, and if you just rip the rug away with no replacement, these people will be left hanging. Many of these people don’t like it because of the cost of their premiums and deductibles, but they don’t have an alternative. Trump promised one.

If the healthcare is ripped from millions of people and people with preexisting conditions or people who are too sick can no longer get care, the Democrats will step in and offer an alternative. That would be the one opening they will need to say, “Look, the Republicans don’t care about you! Vote for us.” They are a party in trouble, but I do believe that will drive turnout for them and cause people who believed Trump that he would provide a replacement to go to them. Therefore, my point is that you would win the battle, but you would lose the war. Trump would be gone in 2020, and their replacement would be Berniecare. You’d also lose out on every other Trump policy that is wonderful.

I’m for having as free market of a system as possible like removing state lines for example, but if someone can’t afford healthcare, Trump said all throughout the campaign he was going to help them. In this way, we are moving the goalposts in the right direction. That’s what Democrats do - increments.

I realize that my view is different than yours. However, my view is the same as the one Trump espoused the entire campaign season. Having personal health issues myself has helped influence my point of view as well. I am a little more liberal on this issue, but again, so was Trump.

I’m not looking to get banned, and so I won’t argue. I’ll just agree to disagree with you.


69 posted on 03/29/2017 10:04:18 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Hillary's Russia Ties - http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/09/hillary-clinton-and-democrats-have.htm)
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