To: stylin19a
They had 7 years. They have had since November to put this together. A leader plans, a leader strategies, a leader would have put together a group to put this bill together long before to became public. We could have lost a few, but a public flop that reflects bad on the President in inexcusable
This is a failure of leadership in congress. Next time get it approved by the house, invite the senate to participate (they may want some things left out that they can fix) LEARN HOW TO LEAD!
To: McGavin999
Failure of leadership ? No question and Ryan should be hammered here. (see Grohmet's comments later in this post)- but...
Both sides are having a conniption because there was no house vote on a repeal\replace in the first 60 odd days ?
That's it ? One shot and done ? paleeze.
The house didn't have 7 years of Ryan controlling the house.
It's the Speaker who determines who does what and when in the House and Ryan chose to not listen to anything but his own counsel.
Same in the Senate. It's McConnell who decides.
With that said, interesting comments from Rep. Gohmert doing what you said to do.
Gohmert said that the House Freedom Caucus was told that language repealing Obamacare regulations such as the essential health benefits could not be included in the House bill because it would endanger the Senates ability to pass it with a 51-vote simple majority.
He explained that House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) said that Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough could rule to strip the bill of those measures before a Senate vote and thats why they couldnt be included in the bill.
But they never checked with the parliamentarian, Gohmert said. [Sen.] Mike Lee checked and it was all fine.
If what Gohmert is saying is true, then Obamacare can be repealed with less than 60 votes in the Senate.
backed by this guys opinion:
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/study-senate-can-repeal-obamacares-regulations-through-reconciliation-only
52 posted on
03/26/2017 5:47:08 PM PDT by
stylin19a
(Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
To: McGavin999; stylin19a
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They had 7 years. They have had since November to put this together. A leader plans, a leader strategies, a leader would have put together a group to put this bill together long before to became public. We could have lost a few, but a public flop that reflects bad on the President in inexcusable
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Maybe you missed the 6 bills they PASSED already? This last piece-o-sh!t wasn’t just something they cobbled together at the last min., this was the dusty (R) version of RomenyCare. They don’t care about the Constitution, only that THEIR name\side is the one driving.
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This is a failure of leadership in congress. Next time get it approved by the house, invite the senate to participate (they may want some things left out that they can fix) LEARN HOW TO LEAD!
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Problem is expecting ‘leadership’ from govt., and more so from the (R) ranks. Govt is the PROBLEM, not the solution. Plus, with the 17th A., the Senate is no better than the House.
79 posted on
03/26/2017 8:18:16 PM PDT by
i_robot73
("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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