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To: McGavin999
Failure of leadership ? No question and Ryan should be hammered here. (see Grohmet's comments later in this post)- but...

Both sides are having a conniption because there was no house vote on a repeal\replace in the first 60 odd days ?

That's it ? One shot and done ? paleeze.

The house didn't have 7 years of Ryan controlling the house.

It's the Speaker who determines who does what and when in the House and Ryan chose to not listen to anything but his own counsel.
Same in the Senate. It's McConnell who decides.

With that said, interesting comments from Rep. Gohmert doing what you said to do.

Gohmert said that the House Freedom Caucus was told that language repealing Obamacare regulations such as the “essential health benefits” could not be included in the House bill because it would endanger the Senate’s ability to pass it with a 51-vote simple majority.

He explained that House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) said that Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough could rule to strip the bill of those measures before a Senate vote and that’s why they couldn’t be included in the bill.

“But they never checked with the parliamentarian,” Gohmert said. “[Sen.] Mike Lee checked and it was all fine.”


If what Gohmert is saying is true, then Obamacare can be repealed with less than 60 votes in the Senate.

backed by this guys opinion:

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/study-senate-can-repeal-obamacares-regulations-through-reconciliation-only
52 posted on 03/26/2017 5:47:08 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: stylin19a

I agree it’s not over, but unless our guys figure out how to lead it may well not matter

I want President Trump in there for 8 years (if he can stand it) but we won’t have that chance if these guys can’t get their act together. Maybe what they need is a day out rowing. Everybody get into a boat, grab an oar, and see how long it takes to figure out how to move the boat.


59 posted on 03/26/2017 6:02:26 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: stylin19a

Yeah the “parliamentarian argument” was a lie by Ryan...the parliamentarian was never consulted: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446034/obamacare-repeal-senate-parliamentarian-rules-allow-house-republicans

The bill was a krap sandwich and deserved to die...all the mandates and penalties included (birth control, annuals, pediatric dental, pediatric eye care, “children” on policies until age 26, etc.) and a 30% premium penalty for letting your heath insurance lapse.

The GOP could introduce a real repeal bill next week if they wanted to...no excuses!


76 posted on 03/26/2017 7:37:13 PM PDT by Drago
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