Posted on 03/26/2017 2:50:01 PM PDT by hotsteppa
Texas Republican Congressman Ted Poe has announced he is giving up membership in Hillarys Favorite Caucus over their unwillingness to support President Trump:
I have resigned from the House Freedom Caucus, Poe said in a statement. In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward. Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do.
Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective Member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead. Some only want to be the party of no & wouldve voted against the 10 commandments,
Congressman Poes exit from #NeverTrump leaves 29 remaining members.
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To me the real question is whether Ryancare as amended over the last 2 weeks was the best we are going to see on the subject from Pres. Trump, who is a healthcare moderate and not a conservative.
I do not believe Obamacare will implode and Pres. Trump will then push for a clean repeal bill.
He’s already signaled. On this issue he’ll support another moderate plan and attempt to get DEMOCRATS on board. I think he just said that he’d go for the moderates. That would mean he’s focused on a moderate bill.
Ryancare was absolutely not the best. It would have outlawed Christian healthcare co-ops [I forget the technical name for them] which work well and are very popular with their members. The only reason for such a punitive strike against Christians is to further bloat/enrich the insurance companies.
Thanks!
Do you have a link to RyanCare outlawing Christian healthcare alternatives?
Thanks.
I think I see your problem. You seem to be under the illusion Trump is a straight up republican; he really isn’t. I see him as a true Independent and not how the Independents like bernie sanders defines it. So what you see as socialism is really more of a centrist attitude. Not centrist as how either party defines it either; I mean centrist when the center was truly center-right (5.5) and not at 4-4.5 as I see it now on a scale of 1-10.
I could be wrong...
Interestingly, I can’t. I had read it multiple times here on FR, and it never occurred to me to doubt it. But when I used the search engine to try to get a link, I couldn’t find one.
I have no idea what happened. Usually when people post untrue things on FR, they get corrected. I never saw any corrections, however, to the claim that Ryancare outlawed Christian medi-shares.
Wanna bet that this weakling POE doesn’t have the nerve to explain himself on Levin or other talk show hosts who might challenge his irrational thinking?
I wouldn’t say that it isn’t true, but I just googled and I couldn’t find it either.
I haven’t looked at the medi-share website for anything like that. I wonder if they have it as an alert to their participants?
I have heard both sides, and some others, and I cannot yet understand the entirety of what happened, nor do I know how to assign blame.
I like that Trump has reminded everyone that the blame lies entirely with the democrats.
If it were true, you or I would have turned it up on a search. My best guess at what happened is that someone posted it, either having mistakenly believed it to be true or knowing it wasn’t. After that it was picked up and repeated because it seemed so likely. I.e.: Ryan, who takes $ from both Soros and the insurance companies, does seem like the kind of person who’d do them a favor. Add confirmation bias and too good to check, and the claim took on a life of its own.
The enemedia and RINO NeverTrump articles about this so-called “failure” are all delusional, and the best part is that they actually believe their own delusions.
I heard President Trump himself say a few weeks ago that his administration wouldnt be addressing obamacare repeal and replace until late 2017 to early 2018 (basically when obamacare would be facing complete collapse), so I cant wait to watch these fools freak the F out when his administration introduces a REAL repeal and replace bill 9 months from now.
As far as President Trump was concerned, RyanCare was nothing but a red herring intended to take Paul Ryan out of all future equations about everything.
RyanCare was a real abortion of a bill, written by the insurance companies who were the only ones who were going to benefit from its passage. The insurance companies clearly had this bill already in hand, and I feel certain had cut a deal with Paul Ryan BEFORE the election, fully expecting (exactly like the rest of the entire world) that HILLARY CLINTON would be President, but believing that some Pub House votes would be needed to get the bill through the House.
RyanCare was actually SUPPOSED to have been HillaryCare, which was why the original RyanCare bill preserved 99.9% of obamacare, and it supposed to have been Hillary’s gift to the insurance companies, while simultaneously shafting Trumps voters, who are the people who would have suffered the worse under HillaryCare/RyanCare, with even higher premiums than we pay now, all the while proclaiming to the public that she had “fixed” obamacare.
Ryan went ahead with HillaryCare anyway, thinking he could bulldoze the House into screwing their own constituencies even worse than happened with obamacare. If this had passed, Ryan also knew that it would totally sink Trump’s ship before four years was out, which was another major goal of Ryan’s, namely, to try to destroy President Trump before 2020.
The Freedom Caucus saved Trump’s bacon whether he knows it or not.
You’re probably right. If I run across anything different in the coming days, I’ll ping you to it.
Huh ?
There is not one Dem in Congress who is pro-American, and Reagan came to the White House with clearly defined and broadly popual policies which forced the other side of the aisle to go along "kicking and screaming".
My sense is that they pushed Ryan’s plan as far to the right as Trump could tolerate. I’d also bet he wasn’t happy with premium increase the first few years, but I think he knew that would be mitigated by more people getting health care coverage from more good jobs coming on line.
I still trusted Trump more than Jordan and Meadows, so I encouraged passing the bill on to the Senate.
Do you know if Jordan and Meadows supported Trump during the primary season?
Thanks—I’d appreciate any additional information on the subject.
Losing this non-vote was bad politics for Trump and bad optics allowing the Dems and the Media to “weaken” him with their rhetoric.
I would have preferred a different outcome.
I voted for him for Governor, but the idiots elected Ahnold.
Maybe he can use his spare time to look into that school in Houston that has prayer rooms for Muslims.
Texas will turn Blue if Trump does not start deporting soon.
Remember when some of us said Trump would have to be just as tough with EOs as Obama was because both parties would fight him tooth and tong.
That brought the Cruz people out waving the Constitution, but the Constitution will only be reinstated by force because Congress doesn't like it very much.
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