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Disgusting: The Freedom Caucus Saves Obamacare Again
american spectator ^ | David Catron

Posted on 03/25/2017 5:33:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

AHCA was pulled from the floor yet again this afternoon, and it now is probable that Obamacare will be the law of the land for years to come. This is an utter disaster for U.S. health care, not to mention individual liberty, and the responsibility rests squarely on shoulders of a small cadre of political opportunists with the effrontery to call themselves the “House Freedom Caucus.”

These people held out for the impossible — full repeal of Obamacare in one fell swoop — and have thus destroyed the only realistic opportunity their party will have in the near future to eradicate the law’s individual and employer mandates, enact entitlement reform, expand HSAs, defund Planned Parenthood, halt the metastasis of Medicaid, and cut its myriad taxes.

Moreover, they have made a mockery of their group’s name by perpetuating the increasingly oppressive and powerful administrative state, leaving their constituents to the tender mercies of Beltway bureaucrats whose contempt for the taxpayers who support them is exceeded only by the breathtaking incompetence with which they mismanage everything they touch.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: butthurt; freedomcaucus; markmeadows; moronic; obamacare; obamacare2; paulryan; rayancarebillpulled; ryan; ryancare; ryancarebill; trump
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To: TTFlyer
This was a step forward,but you Freedom Caucus schmucks have seen to it that we are stuck with O-care.

Is that you, Paul Ryan?

No, but is that you Hillary? Your joy at this defeat for President Trump is shared by her and her party.

41 posted on 03/25/2017 5:53:45 AM PDT by JerseyRepub
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Lots of Vichy republicans at FR these days. Ryancare was just another corporate bailout.

Sometimes the best thing to do is step back and let socialism run itself into the ground. President Trump can now give o-care a not so gentle shove into the abyss. Just grant waivers for the thinnest of justifications.

Premiums too expensive? Waiver.
Christian? Waiver.
Pagan? Waiver.
Allergic to pollen? Waiver.
Cat has a hairball? Waiver.

Without the mandates in o-care, no one except the sickest will voluntarily sign up, and the insurance companies will run away. We end up with a de facto free market, cash and carry system for health care.


42 posted on 03/25/2017 5:54:32 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (It's no longer Right versus left, but Americanism versus globalist scum.)
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To: JerseyRepub

It’s not a “defeat” for Trump it is a HUMILIATING defeat for the GOPe. You know, the incompetent blowhards you worship.


43 posted on 03/25/2017 5:56:27 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Helicondelta
Obama is gone so blaming him doesn’t make any sense.

OK

Somebody will have to be blamed for the failure to repeal Obamacare.

How about Trump?

44 posted on 03/25/2017 5:57:04 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: bert

You don’t seem to have a problem with unconstitutional laws and government encroachment in your life.

May your chains set lightly upon you...


45 posted on 03/25/2017 5:57:11 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: RoosterRedux

All the Freedom Caucus cares about is what K Street cares about- no import tariffs and cheap labor(illegal and legal). That is what freedom means to them.


46 posted on 03/25/2017 5:57:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: thoughtomator

The author sounded like a NeverTrumper. Thanks for the researçh.


47 posted on 03/25/2017 5:57:41 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The Ryan bill cut 1.2 trillion in government spending over 10 years according to the CBO. That’s all I needed to know.

The freedom caucus killed spending cuts. They are no better than any socialist democrat as far as I’m concerned. They fought alongside Obama, Hillary and Bernie. Traitors.


48 posted on 03/25/2017 5:58:06 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: RoosterRedux
When was the last a doctor presented you with a itemized bill for his services..???

Want cheaper health care..?? Then we need to get government completely OUT of health care and doctors OUT of the insurance business....

MHO...

49 posted on 03/25/2017 6:01:41 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Alberta's Child

Ok if we are going to keep O’bastard Care for a while why not push for things that reduce health care costs like tort reform? How about medicaid fraud? There are still things that can be done.


50 posted on 03/25/2017 6:02:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JerseyRepub
The level of ignorance is astounding.

Concur, and the other thing I notice is the complete lack of Christian character in the posts demonizing Paul Ryan. There is great delusion and fantasy on these threads. President Trump and the Republican party were completely defeated by a small obstructionist group of Republicans In Name Only and now will need Democrat votes to get anything through Congress. That necessarily means more liberal compromises.
51 posted on 03/25/2017 6:04:38 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: thoughtomator

“It can’t be coincidence that everyone upset this bill failed is using the language of abusers to lash out.”

That is what personality cultist socialists do when you don’t agree with an agenda. They take it as you are trashing their most treasured prize. Conservatives see it as defeating a god awful bill. OTOH cultists see it as a personal slight in the person.

The difference between conservatism and socialist populism.


52 posted on 03/25/2017 6:05:27 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Alberta's Child

The Author is 1000% correct and you’re pretending.


53 posted on 03/25/2017 6:05:48 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: af_vet_1981

Please do share your grievances with the owner of the site about how ignorant we are of true conservatism. Go ahead, we know your true feelings about conservatives. Please call us tea party members tea baggers. We know you’re itching to do it.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3537799/posts


54 posted on 03/25/2017 6:08:17 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: RoosterRedux

Looks like I need to add David Catron’s name to the list of commentators not worth reading.


55 posted on 03/25/2017 6:09:12 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: RoosterRedux

How is Obamacare saved? Phase Two is still operative. Trump can issue a waiver to EVERY AMERICAN to opt out. The Secretary of HHS can still make broad changes to the bill. Let’s Do this!


56 posted on 03/25/2017 6:11:40 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: RoosterRedux

This line of thinking is GOPe agitprop. The bill was crap twice over and should never have come up. The FC did us all a great service in opposing it ‘til it had to be pulled. We can tough out OCare for a bit longer while a better, less statist, less crony favoring, more individual freedom oriented design can be brought forward.


57 posted on 03/25/2017 6:11:43 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: RoosterRedux

This line of thinking is GOPe agitprop. The bill was crap twice over and should never have come up. The FC did us all a great service in opposing it ‘til it had to be pulled. We can tough out OCare for a bit longer while a better, less statist, less crony favoring, more individual freedom oriented design can be brought forward.


58 posted on 03/25/2017 6:11:52 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: RoosterRedux

this is garbage at best, bad propaganda at worst - the bill went down because it was a bad bill worse that obamacare leaving obamacare leaving most of it’s framework in place and adding some tweaks to try to save it, it never came close to repeal - bleh


59 posted on 03/25/2017 6:11:52 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen
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To: JerseyRepub

That is a kinnard you easily got hood winked into believing. Please show me the amendment that mentions fillibuster. Here I’ll give you a hint...it doesn’t exist. Additionally it only takes 51 not this red herring 60 as you and others espouse. President of the Senate decides what is budgetary and what is not. Also, 90% of the bill can be tied to a budgetary item. Lastly, please do let JR know how ignorant he is. I’m sure he’ll appreciate your candor.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3537799/posts


60 posted on 03/25/2017 6:12:41 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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