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To: Helicondelta

This sick party planned the whole thing to keep Obamacare, one way or the other.


2 posted on 03/24/2017 7:29:12 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Williams

Yep!! Bastard was smug as a bug at that presser!! Fing traitor to the American people!!!


14 posted on 03/24/2017 7:39:31 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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Well maybe so. But it depends on what happens next. If Obamacare “collapses” as Trump has said it will - that could be a crisis that is ripe for taking-advantage-of. I hate that some people may be hurt in the process, but today was the opportunity to make a different choice, and some say the Ryan bill would have hurt a lot of people too.

So maybe this is Trump being 3 steps ahead again. Give repeal-replace a good try, but win either way. Because if Obamacare collapses he can walk in and say OK, you didn’t want Plan A (Ryan) so here is Plan B. But Plan “O” would no longer exist (as it does today).


21 posted on 03/24/2017 7:43:29 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Williams
This sick party planned the whole thing to keep Obamacare, one way or the other.

Just the obstructionist wing, the RINOs.
30 posted on 03/24/2017 7:51:08 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Williams

“This sick party planned the whole thing to keep Obamacare, one way or the other.”

The House controls the budget process. The GOP has controlled the House since January 2011. They could have defunded it anytime since then but chose not to do so.

The GOP captured the Senate in 2014 and with that victory has controlled both houses of Congress since January 2015. They did pass and send to Obama’s desk a straight repeal bill which was vetoed. However, they made no attempt to defund Obamacare.

Since January 2017 the GOP has controlled both houses of Congress and the office of President. On Trump’s inauguration day, a majority party controlling Congress serious about repealing Obamacare would have put a a bill on the new president’s desk repealing Obamacare. It didn’t happen.

Conclusion. The GOP has never been serious about ending Obamacare for the citizens who vote for them. . However they do take seriously their obligations to the big donors. Hence we are where we are. Big pharma, big insurance, big hospitals, big medical groups, and all Democrat constituencies are happy.

Remember next time Rush Limbaugh, the Heritage Foundation, the RNC, the NRA and all of the faux conservative pundits tell you voting GOP makes a difference.


72 posted on 03/25/2017 4:26:50 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: Williams

This sick party planned the whole thing to keep Obamacare, one way or the other.

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I can agree with that, especially on the part of Ryan. The Uniparty strategy is to slow down Trump and the draining of the swamp.


74 posted on 03/25/2017 5:00:22 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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