[PGR88]

Exactly - the proposed “stage 2” and “stage 3” was all BS. Ryan care would simply cement the basic outline of Obamacare in place. As the Heritage Foundation said, the goal was to turn health-care into a Federally-regulated utility.

I do not believe Obamacare will “go bust” nor will it “collapse.”

yes, it can and will become increasingly perverse and destructive, especially for the middle-class. But the mandates all remain in place, and it will continue to receive funding from Fed.gov, paid for with debt and printed money. I have never understood why people think it will “collapse.”

[Garth Tater]

I have never understood why people think it will “collapse.”

It's in the process of collapsing already. More and more providers dropping out of markets every month. Higher premiums and higher deductibles forcing people to go bare and just pay the penalties. Covering pre-existing conditions and covering every non-taxpaying illegal that makes it across the border pretty much assured a death spiral for obamacare unless ever increasing subsidies are provided to insurers and stiffer penalties for refuseniks are enacted - but with Trump in the White House and both houses of Congress in Republican hands those things don't have to be provided.

Doing nothing and watching it burn the whole time pointing at the Democrats and saying, "See what those bastards did!" should be the Republican plan of action - not trying to fix the Democrats mistakes and thereby taking a share in blame for the coming disaster.