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This disaster is amplified by the fact the vote did not go forward and put these weasels on the record.
1 posted on 03/24/2017 12:45:04 PM PDT by Mariner
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This was a horrible bill that died a necessary death.

Let Ryan take the heat and try again in August when the news of astronomical Obamacare premium rate increases and insurers leaving the markets begins to leak out and the sticker shock hits the public.

Then there will be enough support to do a clean repeal.

In the meantime, Trump needs to separate Medicaid and ObamaCare with some divide and conquer scheme since most of the ObamaCare beneficiaries are defacto Medicaid recipients riding the ObamaCare train.

Separate and decouple the Medicaid riders from ObamaCare and all you have left are the poor middle class schmucks supporting the system and the chronic HIV cases who are the real intended beneficiaries of ObamaCare

100 posted on 03/24/2017 1:02:23 PM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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The biggest problems I personally experienced with Obamacare (before I turned 65 and went on Medicare) were:

One-quarter of these could be dealt with by eliminating the state exchanges. A long-term solution to the other problems may involve convincing late-night TV-host comedians to administer some richly-deserved reamings to the software industry.

109 posted on 03/24/2017 1:03:38 PM PDT by snarkpup ("I need some new pajamas, so I'll be properly dressed when my TV spies on me." - Michael Savage)
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WE WANT CONSERVATISM

WE WANT TRUMP

WE DON'T WANT THE GOPe!

110 posted on 03/24/2017 1:03:47 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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All this intentional Ryan, had to know this bill was just Obamacare light and would not pass. THinking about the 2018 election, and a further deteriation of Ocare. Also we will never move in a more free market direction, that is now clear. Put in justices, lower taxes, pass infrastucture, and keep Dems out of office.


114 posted on 03/24/2017 1:03:54 PM PDT by QuigleyDU
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The bill was essentially Obamacare "lite". I want a more radical repeal that completely phases out Obamacare in favor of a true market-based system of health insurance, where insurers can offer policies across state lines on a regional basis (or offer incentives to have more insurers in Alaska and Hawaii). That way, with REAL competition for health care insurance policy dollars (imagine being able to choose between 25 to 30 plans per state!), there is all the incentive to keep costs low.
117 posted on 03/24/2017 1:04:23 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Our local communist Atlanta media outlet WSB is saying that TRUMP told RYAN to pull the bill
Anything to taint Trump


120 posted on 03/24/2017 1:05:12 PM PDT by freedomlover
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Good! Now repeal obamacare.


135 posted on 03/24/2017 1:08:15 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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“This disaster is amplified by the fact the vote did not go forward and put these weasels on the record.”

LOL. The reason it didn’t go forward is that Paul Ryan was embarrassed by how few votes it would get.


138 posted on 03/24/2017 1:08:46 PM PDT by TTFX
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This bill is dead. Here is a simple Plan B.

Eliminate the waiver for Congress and other federal workers on Obamacare - immediately. Then make some popcorn.


143 posted on 03/24/2017 1:09:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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On some beach in Tahiti a skinny Kenyan is smiling


148 posted on 03/24/2017 1:11:13 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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Obama’s fingerprints are all over this.

It was all coordinated by Obama and the DNC to oppose President Trump.


149 posted on 03/24/2017 1:11:33 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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My feeling is as follows (and keep in mind I’m not the most educated person on this but I go with my gut)

I think Trump all along had Ryan’s back until he realized Ryan did not even consider the people in this bill. Once he that clearly, I think PITUS went into “give him enough rope and let him hang himself” mode.

We saw him stand up and say “...get this thing done or move on”. That is a negotiator! Even though he said earlier today that Ryan will stay,I think it’s patently obvious Ryan cannot stay and should not stay.He will be gone in short order... I can see it coming and Trump will take over the healthcare etc. and make his promises to the people real.

He is moving on to tax cuts. I don’t think any of this is a defeat for Trump at all, however I think it sheds a bright light on Ryan and the rest of the elites. These people couldn’t govern their way out of a wet paper bag.
#MAGA
#DTS


166 posted on 03/24/2017 1:15:12 PM PDT by connyankee (#MAGABEGINS)
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1) Withdrawal is better than the alternative ie putting vulnerable Reps to the blade 2018

2) No reason to send up a bill that the Senate would mutate

3) #2 is probably #1 - we need more GOP Senators not less ... do you all realize we are sitting on 2 if not 3 Leftard S COtUS replacements after Gosuch?


183 posted on 03/24/2017 1:20:32 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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Paul Ryan and Gary Cohn lose, Steve Bannon & populism win and saves Trump from serious mistake.

Backstory; Cohn slips multiple notches while Bannon solidifies power.

186 posted on 03/24/2017 1:21:03 PM PDT by JonPreston
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I think it was bad to pull the bill. I thought Trump was sterner than that. His first confrontation was a disorderly retreat.

Let the bill faill, then move on. It proves Trump is very serious. How many Presidents have you ever seen fight as hard and as serious as Trump?

After the bill failed, just starve Obamacare and Executive order it to death just like Obama Executive ordered it to life.


207 posted on 03/24/2017 1:28:35 PM PDT by Fhios
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Ryan is an absolute arrogant fool.


208 posted on 03/24/2017 1:28:39 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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What happened to that original repeal and replace bill?


211 posted on 03/24/2017 1:30:18 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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214 posted on 03/24/2017 1:31:58 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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215 posted on 03/24/2017 1:31:58 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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Expect the same dog and pony show with “tax reform”

It aint gonna happen.

I am done with these friggin pukes.


225 posted on 03/24/2017 1:34:40 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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