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1 posted on 03/23/2017 7:48:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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They’re in deep do dah.


2 posted on 03/23/2017 7:51:42 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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But at least they’ll have a nice train.


3 posted on 03/23/2017 7:53:03 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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Californians may have to do without champagne and caviar for a while since daddy deep-pockets isn’t on the throne any longer.


5 posted on 03/23/2017 7:56:11 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Get a gold mining co to come in and bust all the rock out from the end of the damaged portion down to the river.

They will have that done in two to three months.


6 posted on 03/23/2017 8:00:19 PM PDT by crz
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As a conservative I have spent some time trying to envision what the inevitable failure of our government would look like, given that we have borrowed 20 trillion dollars and committed perhaps ten times that amount to "entitlements".

The Oroville Dam situation provides one aspect of this failure. We are dealing with repairs that could have been made ten years earlier at much less expense. Lack of judgement on the part of liberals has resulted in a situation where we must now spend many tens of millions by November or face the distinct possibility of wiping out a fairly large part of the state. Even if we spend the money, the weather may not cooperate by waiting until November or we may fail to get our money's worth for the repair costs.

Either way we are entering an era wherein the government's resources will be very limited at a time when demands on government will be serious and non-negotiable. It is the youth of our nation which will have to pay for these errors. The upside is that this will create a smarter generation with a deep conviction that "there ain't no free lunch".

7 posted on 03/23/2017 8:03:26 PM PDT by William Tell
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I think I’d look at where the water wants to go, and line that with concrete instead of trying to put back the structure that didn’t work.


8 posted on 03/23/2017 8:07:45 PM PDT by PAR35
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they won’t fix it until it rains again


10 posted on 03/23/2017 8:13:04 PM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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No problem, the global warming crowd has said California is in a big drought.


11 posted on 03/23/2017 8:14:40 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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...spokeswoman Maggie Macias said the agency’s objective is to have a fully functional spillway before the start of the next storm season.
“We’ll be working round-the-clock through spring, summer and fall to make that happen,”

The only way that will happen is if they start writing checks to contractors with lots of zeros; they don't let an EPA weenie within 20 miles of the site; and they write-off that entire valley for the first mile or so down stream of the dam - no questions asked. Then turn the contractors loose and they can make it happen - as long as Cali's loony left government doesn't "help" too much. (ie. any)

In other words, ain't gonna happen. I predict they'll screw around with environmental stuff for weeks, maybe several months. They'll come up with a complicated design that coupled with various constraints imposed won't even begin to be ready by November. Instead, they'll fumble along, and then along in October sometime they'll push the panic button and blow millions on emergency measures and wreak more havoc through the rainy season. They may, may be done by November - of 2018.

12 posted on 03/23/2017 8:19:51 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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I have an alternate solution. Abandon the dam. Send all the illegal Mexican aliens in and around LA back to Mexico, and tell LA there will be no more water coming from the Oroville dam source. Open floodgates slowly and allow the lake to empty out slowly. Then allow the Feather River to flow naturally through the former Lake Oroville, as it did for thousands of years before the dam. Environmentalists will be happy with this solution. So will taxpayers.


13 posted on 03/23/2017 8:20:41 PM PDT by roadcat
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We'll have a fundraiser! Please make your checks out to:

High speed rail fund

Sacremento, CA

15 posted on 03/23/2017 8:24:56 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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What amazes me is the piss poor engineering that was used in the construction of the spillway and emergency spillway.

The spillway was poured in sections but it was not a lapped pour. In effect it was just big sections of concrete slabs. It it had of been a lapped structure the water going down the spillway could not have undermined the sections of concrete, engineering 101 and also aerodynamics which is fluid flow dynamics. The real hell of it is to make it a lapped spillway would have added minimal costs to the project.

The emergency spillway was a crime of engineering. They built it on unconsolidated ground. This was even a greater crime than the poorly designed spillway. In short order the water going over the emergency spillway started washing out the unconsolidated ground. If this had of continued it would have taken out the adjacent spillway and they would have lost the entire lake quickly and a catastrophic down stream flood would have occurred.

That is why they reopened the damaged spillway despite the damage to it. They damn near lost the lake.

It would be very interesting to see the original engineering proposals for the damn. Were the original proposals changed or was the engineering just piss poor.

19 posted on 03/23/2017 8:38:01 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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Rain...schmain...

Better worry about a 3.2 earthquake...Now...

20 posted on 03/23/2017 9:10:39 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: All; EarthResearcher333; abb; Jim 0216; WildHighlander57; meyer; Repeal The 17th; KC Burke; ...

Please ping the rest of the faithful.

The other Thread needs to be preserved for future research on this monster problem.

Please use this one for current data and upcoming data.

There is a huge rain storm hitting the bay area early tomorrow and more next week.

Throw in snow melt, and we have some possible dangerous factors impacting this damaged dam.

Pray for those living below this damaged dam and the workers.


21 posted on 03/23/2017 9:12:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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Millions of illegals and not one an engineer.


22 posted on 03/23/2017 9:14:22 PM PDT by umgud
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I would sure like to get into some of those deep holes down in the riverbed at the base of the original spillway with my dredge.
To bad the stupid people in Sacramento outlawed dredging in the state.


24 posted on 03/23/2017 9:21:36 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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They don't have 7 months to rebuild it. To do so means they have to shut down use of it for that time. Which they can't do as the damn dam keeps filling up to a point where their in danger of having to use the ESPILLWAY again.
With the snowpack at 280%. And other dams at or near capacity, there's nowhere to put the excess flow. The water elevation in the dams in the state have been maintained at to high of an elevation because of the drought and the idiotic thinking that it was never going to rain again.

Now their stuck.

Also they built the spillways on material that is not pure bedrock. That and a lack of maintenance screwed them.

Ed

31 posted on 03/23/2017 9:54:41 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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Start lining it with steel and bring in the gunite crews!


33 posted on 03/23/2017 10:11:36 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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In a more pragmatic age, it would be rebuilt by convicted felons roped together forming a human chain placing stone blocks hewn from a nearby quarry and rolled into position with logs on timbers. Beats having them working out and watching sports on flatscreen TV’s in the common area.


34 posted on 03/23/2017 10:21:57 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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COMING SOON!!

California Collapsing: Dam, Just Dam!!

An Irwin Allen production

A Speilberger MoonBeam ‘Calamity Crisis’ is the ‘New Normal’ Film

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Join with us around the campfire as the dam cracks..

Listen to stories of missed opportunities..

When Brown was a color and not a state of mind..

and pine for the days when the woods were green..

or at least as full of green as the pocketbooks of Gaian followers.


35 posted on 03/23/2017 10:37:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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