Posted on 03/23/2017 6:26:26 PM PDT by NRx
I now have the mental image of Paul Ryan riding a tricycle.
This bill is dead. Spicer is telling the media now that Ryan told Trump the votes are not there.
These people are so stupid. They have one chance to repeal this thing. ONE. It’ll drag out until the mid-terms when enough people that are sick of Trump will come out to vote and turn the tide in one or both of the houses of Congress. Then we’ll forever be stuck with Obamacare.
Trump throw away his mandate on this bag of s***. Mindless stupidity.
Actually as of this moment, the markets are doing okay across the board. Only the Dow is down a little:
http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EGSPC?ltr=1
Mr. Trump never puts all of his eggs in one basket, he likes to keep a lot of balls in the air. This doesn’t mean he’s given up on it, he’s going to work on something else for a while. His name is not on it. He doesn’t own it unless he signs something. He is protecting his downside.
My take: A NO vote is a victory for moderates and will force Trump to form some kind of different coalition to get his agenda through. He won’t be burned twice. If the Freedom Caucus doesn’t think they were pulled in early enough on this, just wait and see what happens going forward if the vote goes NO today. They may as well caucus at the North Pole.
Fantasies in the echo chamber
Obamacare-lite is a crap sandwich, and if it passes it could well be the end of a meaningful conservative movement.
If we have to pass this trash to get “tax relief” when we have a trillion $ deficit, then the tax relief will need to wait. As for border security, the wall is important, but the President can send a very large national guard contingent down there right now, while we figure out how to build it. my personal preference is that the seed money come from private sources until the feds pony up.
We are in a culture war and many of us are sick of half-measures which seem to always end up doing less than nothing to reverse socialism.
Your passionate defense of the Speaker is noted.
“REFUTE” was not my intention...
Hannity hates it. Michelle Maulkin hate it. Conservative media seems to hate it.
Why does Trump want to pass something so hated so badly?
The greatest barrier to the truth is to believe you already have it. Chuck Missler
Hint. You don't have it.
Trump wants it passed.
I feel like I’m through the looking glass here.
Trump is either playing multi-dimensional chess designed to bring down Paul Ryan, the Democrats, end Obamacare, and replace it with the greatest plan ever (which he has never revealed).
Or this is a giant cluster.
Here is the question I have never had answered: What does Trump actually want out of this bill? What are the policy goals he seeks?
If this is some master plan to bring down Ryan, what is Trump’s end game.
Obamacare exists. He’s totally kneecapped the man responsible for shepherding his agenda through Congress. And - as we learned 18 months ago - there is no one to replace him.
He’s only declared the most conservative group in Congress heretics on Twitter. He can’t go to the Right.
Where do you think he goes for help next?
Everyone should have known that this populist/Reaganite fault line would be rupture at some point during the Administration. I did not plan on two months during the first real piece of legislation.
Here is the fundamental problem we have right now. We have three parties. Democrats. Republicans. And Populists. And it’s possible the only member of the Populist Party is Trump.
Basically, we are seeing what would have happened in 1992 if Perot had won - with the exception that the Democrats actually knew how to run the House and probably could have gotten a year of something out of him before it all went to hell in a handbasket.
“What does Trump actually want out of this bill? What are the policy goals he seeks?”
He is simply delegating health care to the Republican House to see what they can accomplish. If they accomplish nothing, he will try something else.
That’s like me telling my kids, “I want the living room to look better” and then coming back to find rainbows drawn on the walls in crayon.
What are his goals? What does he want accomplished?
And why is he backing this travesty of a bill?
That’s like me telling my kids, “I want the living room to look better” and then coming back to find rainbows drawn on the walls in crayon.
What are his goals? What does he want accomplished?
And why is he backing this travesty of a bill?
***I don’t blame him. He’s invested too much capital - not to mention time, blood, sweat, etc. ***
What capital? What blood and sweat? He just lapped up Ryancare pure and simple. What this bill does to Vets disgusts me. I can’t believe Trump is for this after campaigning to take care of Vets.
The Freedom Caucus is right to be against it and the fact that he is going after them dissapoints me. They are simply trying to get him to stick to his word.
May it fail miserably today. If he walks away instead of looking at other, better bills, then it will change my view of him tremendously.
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