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Germany: Turkey is ‘further from EU membership than ever
Middle East Monitor (MEMO) ^ | March 18, 2017 | none stated

Posted on 03/18/2017 10:41:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said in an interview with news magazine Der Spiegel published today that Turkey has never been less likely to join the European Union than now, as relations between Ankara and Berlin hit a low point.

“Today Turkey is definitely further away from becoming a member of the European Union than ever before,” Gabriel said in the interview.

He also said that he always had doubts about whether Turkey should join the EU but found himself in the minority in his Social Democrat (SPD) party.

Before taking power in Germany in 2005, Chancellor Angela Merkel was an outspoken opponent of Turkey’s membership and instead called for a “privileged partnership”.

Gabriel disliked that idea because he thought it would make Turks feel like second-class Europeans but he said his opinion had changed since Britain’s decision to leave the EU.

Read: Turkey threatens to cancel EU migrant deal following tensions

“Today the situation is totally different due to Brexit. We’d be well advised to bring about a ‘special relationship’ with Great Britain after its exit from the EU,” Gabriel said.

“That will be an important learning process for the EU and perhaps some of it can serve as a blueprint for other countries in the long term,” Gabriel said.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is courting Turks abroad for support in a referendum due to be held on 16 April that would reform Turkey’s parliamentary democracy into an executive presidency, similar to the United States.

After Germany and the Netherlands appeared to be taking sides in Turkey’s internal affairs and the referendum process by banning rallies, events and even ministers from entering Turkish sovereign territory, Erdogan lashed out by describing both countries as “fascist” and “Nazi remnants”.

Gabriel said Erdogan was taking advantage of a sentiment many people of Turkish origin have in Germany that they are neither accepted nor welcomed, but failed to address why these European citizens of Turkish background may feel this way.

Europe has become increasingly Islamophobic and xenophobic, with racist sentiments and attacks against Muslims and non-white refugees, migrants and even naturalised citizens increasing at an alarming rate.

Gabriel said Germany should avoid reacting in kind to provocations from Turkey because that would only give Erdogan an enemy to direct his people’s ire toward, arguing that the Turkish president “needs a bogeyman for his campaign”.

He also warned Turkish politicians that they could be banned from holding rallies in Germany if they do not stick to German laws: “Whoever crosses these lines cannot expect to be allowed to propagate his political ideas here.”

However, there was never any indication that Turkey had breached any German laws, as the rallies were scheduled months in advance with the German authorities, yet were cancelled last minute for no apparent reason beyond minor concerns regarding “car parking facilities” and similar issues Turkey called trivial.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; german; membership; turkey
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When you call nations Nazi's it seems Germans and others are quit completely offended. Do I blame them? NO

This insult will carry a long consequence.

And Erdogan's prize, the Dictator Referendum, is not far away, April 16th.

1 posted on 03/18/2017 10:41:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: tomkat; Candor7; ColdOne

Turkey Ping!


2 posted on 03/18/2017 10:42:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Turkey in EU?
More likely Europe in the caliphate.


3 posted on 03/18/2017 10:48:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Texas Fossil

OMG. Will never ever again consider the Germans a smart people. They may have been in the past, but currently they are perhaps the dumbest race on the planet. Erdogan just declared war on you idiots and you still think there is a chance for an Alliance ? Stupidity does not even begin to describe this behavior.


4 posted on 03/18/2017 10:53:43 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Texas Fossil

And?

Is EU membership for any country other than some dirt poor Slavic nation supposed to be enticing, in 2017?

“It’s so great, countries are voting to leave!”


5 posted on 03/18/2017 10:54:33 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Texas Fossil

Unfortunately Turkey is in the F-35 stealth fighter consortium with access to the technology.


6 posted on 03/18/2017 10:56:35 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menehune56

They will need parts too.


7 posted on 03/18/2017 10:57:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

You won’t go to Turkey? No problem, they’re coming to you. With a vengance. You might want to rethink allowing German citizens firearms ownership. Loosen up some before you lose it all.


8 posted on 03/18/2017 10:57:31 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: onedoug

Yes, that is Erdogan’s aim. To totally subject the EU by immigration and stealth.

Looks like EU woke up.


9 posted on 03/18/2017 10:58:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Turkey is two-faced. When talking to muzzieland, it’s 100% muzzie and favors muzzies. When talking to normal people, it pretends to be moderate and ready to join the modern world.

Turkey is not to be trusted. Keep them out of the EU.


10 posted on 03/18/2017 10:58:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Oh, he has been planning this a long time. This final insult got their attention.


11 posted on 03/18/2017 10:59:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Trump20162020

Funny. When Reagan freed them we were elated.

Now you make them sound like worthless people from worthless countries.

Maybe you were too young to remember The Great One.

You certainly do him no justice.


12 posted on 03/18/2017 11:00:05 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Texas Fossil
Turkey doesn't need any steenking EU membership. All the Turks need to do is breed them out. Caliphate West.
13 posted on 03/18/2017 11:01:16 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: I want the USA back

Taqiyya


14 posted on 03/18/2017 11:02:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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This article seems to come from a pro-muzzie website.

After Germany and the Netherlands appeared to be taking sides in Turkey’s internal affairs and the referendum process by banning rallies, events and even ministers from entering Turkish sovereign territory, Erdogan lashed out by describing both countries as “fascist” and “Nazi remnants”.

What, allow Erdogan to campaign on European soil? No. Why should they?

Europe has become increasingly Islamophobic and xenophobic, with racist sentiments and attacks against Muslims and non-white refugees, migrants and even naturalised citizens increasing at an alarming rate.

Oh, just stuff it. Getting tired of this crap.

15 posted on 03/18/2017 11:02:39 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Mr. Mojo

He’s working on that. Told Turks living abroad to have 5 children instead of 3. Takeover?


16 posted on 03/18/2017 11:03:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
Looks like EU woke up

Out of islamism? Try again.

17 posted on 03/18/2017 11:06:54 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Moltke

If you look at the places this news source is distributed, Turkey is one.

“Published in: Europe & Russia, Germany, News, Turkey”

I do not see this as a pro Muslim article. It is certainly not a Pro Erdogan article.


18 posted on 03/18/2017 11:07:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: onedoug

I think the EU citizens realize that they are in trouble.


19 posted on 03/18/2017 11:09:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dp0622

What are you going on about?


20 posted on 03/18/2017 11:19:09 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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