There have been and still are legal ways to monitor any American without a FISA or having the President, Att Gen, or FBI Director getting their hands dirty.
So did 0 have a foreign govt spy on President Elect Trump and then give the info if any to (0) ?
There are semi legal exceptions for spying from physical locations outside of the US.
The precedents were started with/by Harry Truman.
"This has been basically going on since Truman got rid of the OSS and formed the CIA and NSA. Part of their charters was not to spy on or monitor Americans."
So, we monitored Brits, Aussies, Kiwis and Canutes and they monitored our citizens to get around those bans re not monitoring your own citizens. America and the 4 countries mentioned above, formed the 5 Eyes.
So here is how this could have gone down. Obama asks Clapper privately to monitor Trump Tower and Trump. Or Obama asked Lynch to ask Clapper to monitor Trump Tower and Trump.
Then, Clapper could have asked Canada, the UK, Australia or New Zealand to spy on Trump and any American or Americans without ordering it to be done by the NSA or FBI. Leaving Obama able to say, “I didn’t order the spying on Trump Tower, or as Nixon said decades ago, “I am not a crook!”
This has been going on for decades starting with #1 through #3 below:
1. Project 5 eyes
2. Project Echelon
3. Project Prism
4. Muscular the current program run by the Brit’s GCHQ and probably financed by the CIA.
#1 and #2 go back to the early days after President Truman got rid of the OSS and established the CIA and the NSA.
As noted, neither agency, CIA/NSA were supposed to spy or monitor American citizens as per their charters.
With 5 eyes, we would/could spy on the UK/Brits, Australians, Kiwis and Canadians and let the mother countries know when they might have problems. Then, they would monitor American citizens like Trump, his people and you, for us and give the the data on those American Citizens and you
Supposedly the countries mentioned above can’t spy on their own people. Our NSA/CIA/? Could do that for our 5 EYE buddies and report back to the mother country if there was a problem with their citizens or you!
Echelon came about a little later. With the 5 eyes lateral spying agreement, Echelon became solidified and very functional for decades. We monitored their citizens, and they monitored our citizens like candidate Trump his people and you. ,
Prism supposedly replaced 5 eyes and Echelon, but the 5 Eyes/Echelon concept was/is still there.
Muscular is one of the current joint programs run by the Brit’s GCHQ and probably financed by the CIA.
So Obama would not had to ask NSA/FBI to spy on Trump. He could have had Clapper ask his counterpart in the UK or Canada or any of other 5 Eye countries to monitor Trump Towers and listen in to what was said. At this point, it was probably the Brits GCHQ and its MUSCULAR program.
The FBI may have put bugs in or set up electronic interceptions at Trump Towers for their Canadian intel counterparts to monitor all verbal and digital transmission to and from Trump Tower in October of last year until this year up to Trump becoming President. There is minimal need for bugs with today's state of electronic monitoring from afar.
So did GB/GCHQ monitor Trump, his people, and you in Trump Towers, in NYC, and then report back to Obama, NSA, FBI and ?. If so, Obama could deny that he ordered the spying?
Obama is playing a game by saying he didn’t order the FBI?NSA to spy on candidate Trump and his people. Obama probably had Clapper or ? ask his Brit/Canadian counterparts to spy on Trump and his people. Or he had Lynch ask Clapper. Then, Clapper asked Brits/GCHQ or one of other 5 Eye countries to monitor Trump Tower, Trump, his people and you!
Have fun with this data! Don’t try searching for this late at night to avoid getting insomnia. Take a baby aspirin to keep from stroking out.
Remember Clapper is probably somehow involved and is a first class liar.
Lynch may have gotten involved while exchanging pictures of grandkids with Bubba in her plane in Arizona.
