I still don't understand why we don't burn it all to the ground and start again.
Posted on 03/11/2017 1:38:15 PM PST by Resettozero
Sarah Palin, the first major GOP figure to endorse President Donald Trump, is calling out House Speaker Paul Ryan for what she says is “RINO-Care'...in her first interview on the topic, coming on Breitbart News Saturday on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel this weekend...
“I do want to speak about this, but I am tempted to say not another word from our fearless leaders about this new form of Obamacare that I’m going to call RINO-care—not another word from them until we are definitively told that there is no provision whatsoever allowing Congress to exempt itself whatsoever with this law,” Palin said. “As with anything else mandated by Congress, every single dotted I and crossed T better apply to them, too, and not just the people who they are lording this thing over because remember this is government-controlled health care, the system that requires enrollment in an unaffordable, unsustainable, unwanted, unconstitutional continuation of government-run medicine, and even in this new quasi-reformed proposal, there is still an aspect of socialism. That’s the whole premise here.”
Palin expressed serious concern with the fact that Ryan’s healthcare bill does not eliminate Obamacare’s individual mandate. It just shifts the mandate—which requires all Americans to purchase a health insurance plan even if they do not want one. Under Obamacare, those who do not comply, pay a tax to the federal government. Under Ryan’s plan, those who not comply, pay a fee to the insurance companies.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
I agree with Sarah, but:
- Congress will never put themselves under RINOCARE.
- Congress will never subject themselves to “term limits.
- Congress will never vote themselves “pay cuts”.
- Congress will never reduce their pensions.
- Congress will never pass “line item veto”.
So, we might as well shut up about Congress doing anything detrimental to themselves (even though, better for Americans).
We need to start this mantra, FULL REPEAL, OR NO DEAL.
In his presentation he said explicitly that you can choose not to buy insurance.
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Let’s say you lose a job with insurance and you don’t get another for 3 months. You went 3 months without insurance so when you sign up with the new plan they will charge you a 30% penalty for a year for not having coverage.
You did not choose to go without insurance, it just happened. And the penalty under Ryancare amounts to much more money for most people than the penalty under Obamacare.
It’s still a penalty for not buying insurance.
But, but, but . . . if you read the bill, you'll notice the requirement stays, read the Internal Revenue code 5000A cited in the bill.
I still don't understand why we don't burn it all to the ground and start again.
“I still don’t understand why we don’t burn it all to the ground and start again.”
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We don’t have the votes.
Sucks, but we don’t have a conservative majority with the likes of McCain, Linda, et-freaking-cetera.
*Spit*
I don’t think Ryancare will make it out of the House.
Politically speaking we may be well past the point where market driven health care will ever come back.
I base this on a simple aspect of human nature - and it’s this. Once you give away bennies, you will have hell to pay if you ever take them away.
Who here in freeperland truly believes that...
1. the subsidies that millions of “low income” people are getting will ever be taken away
2. preexisting conditions won’t in one form or another be covered
3. emergency room service won’t be provided for free to anyone who doesn’t have insurance.
4. that kids up to 26 won’t be covered under their parents
5. that birth control won’t be covered
Palin complains about people being forced to get health insurance. I’m all in favor of letting people decide if they want to buy insurance, but only under the condition that if they get sick the hospitals or anyone else are not mandated to have to take care of them.
(By the way that law that mandates that emergency rooms must take care of whoever shows up regardless of whether they can pay was signed into law by Reagan. That was the start of skyrocketing medical costs. It’s a blatant case of being generous with other people’s money)
I sense intense anger from the quotes. Palin hates this stinking bill.
Also ...
Mark Levin: There is something horribly immoral about RINOcare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3533357/posts
[He only focused on pre-existing conditions.]
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[I also wrote a vanity that explains the corruption driving this ...]
RINO-Care is Crony-Baloney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3533863/posts
You seem surprised...why? Different departments, same company.
I think it’s interesting that Breitbart quoted her.
Muahahah!
Things are not precisely as they seem.
Why blame Trump? Conservatives elected Ryan as Speaker and leader.
Why don’t they oust Ryan? And start fresh.
Search Freerepublic for tax credit.
Research and get educated before posting nonsense.
A snippet from:
RINO-Care is Crony-Baloney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3533863/posts
Yes, simply repealing would be the best long term solution to healthcare, but you are more likely to catch a unicorn. Not happenning ...
But when you can’t destroy a great evil outright you temporize it [Machiavelli]. I’ve worked on several wedge issues already as have others.
We can tear it down brick by brick. For example — grossly self-inflicted injuries — worst of the worst of the worst. Who should pay for some 500 pound slob to be treated and awarded disability because he’s too fat to walk?
How about kicking that fat pig out of the clinic and onto the curb until private charities put a muzzle on his mouth, feed him health food through a straw, and give him a place to sleep and fart?
When you ask similar tough questions, wings of mercy start to get plucked.
But that’s going to be a long fat man slog [or waddle] just like the abortion issue.
... NOW ...
What can we achieve this year legislatively?
If we could simply increase healthcare competition this year, that would be YUGE in itself, something all reasonable conservatives could get behind.
Like an old fart once said:
“Follow the money, sonny.”
Stamp out the cronyism — cut off their gravy train — and you drain the swamp.
And if this corrupt crony network is rewarded for its evil — they grow like a cancer:
1. More money means more power for more corruption.
2. Each year of success means they become more experienced.
3. And they keep getting better networked each year.
4. The blackmailing element also grows — more goods on more key politicians.
Please note: this chance to cash in on cheap monopolies is once-in-a-lifetime. They will grow by leaps and bounds if Ryan-Care is passed.
Interstate competition or bust!
That was one of the strongest arguments against its implementation prior to passage. Government entitlements never die.
Game over. Press the 'Revolution' button to try again.
You have to fight for what you believe, not for what you are guaranteed.
Tax credit= tax payer keeps dollars even if he didn’t actually pay any income taxes, dollars taken from another taxpayer.
Emergency room service was the law before 0bamacare.
The horrible “Cadillac” tax is still there just delayed. I believe they kept the mandate but reduced the fine to 0. Gee, l wonder why the didn’t just eliminate it? Remember how happy we were when we got rid of that worthless rino Boehner? Well guess what happened.
I don’t think that’s right. I think what you’re thinking of is a REFUNDABLE tax credit. Otherwise all it can do is bring you down to paying no taxes. Example your income was $30,000 and there is a tax credit of $1000 then you you would pay taxes on $30,000 (let’s say a flat 10% just to make it simple) your payable taxes would be $3000. With the tax credit you would only pay $2000. If the tax credit were $4000 then you would pay $0. If you have a REFUNDABLE tax credit you would get a tax refund of $1000 in scenario 2. I believe this is how it works and this is why I’m fine with it. If I’m mistaken please correct me. I think the proposal calls for a tax credit, not a refundable one.
The mandate is not repealed. They just set the official penalty at zero.
But if the government forces you to pay a fee to the insurance company, that amounts to the same thing.
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